There's too much 'consensus' in most headline stories. After all, guys that live on sound bites are not known for their tortured thinking process.
Here are two recent commentaries that have stood out for me:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/imprecise-data-skews-economic-view-top-forecaster-2011-06-13
Excerpt:
“When GDP is at odds with everything else you know, it’s time to pay to attention to everything else, rather than to GDP,” Crandall said in an interview. The first quarter was not weak, he insists: Payroll growth was the best of the recovery, the Institute for Supply Management factory index hit a 27-year high, manufacturing output was strong, business and consumer confidence were up, and profits were “exceptionally strong.”
Crandall said the quarterly GDP figures are often painfully at odds with reality. Putting the national accounts together is a daunting enough task on a yearly basis, but it’s just about impossible to measure quarterly changes.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/making-the-trend-your-friend-2011-06-10
In this case, let me highlight one of the middle paragraphs:
Blake LeBaron, a finance professor at Brandeis University who has extensively analyzed various technical analysis strategies including moving averages, says that there is the distinct possibility that something has permanently changed in the financial markets that largely eliminated the moving average’s potential as a market timing indicator.
What might that something be? Prof. LeBaron speculates that one culprit might be the 200-day moving average’s increasing popularity. As more and more investors begin to follow a system, of course, its potential to beat the market begins to evaporate.
You might recall I brought up the above 'distinct possibility' 1-2 years ago. Look, I'm not saying that I've stumbled on any game-changing insights. No, I'm just highlighting a real-life strategy: if you want to get ahead of the crowd, tune out the talking heads, and listen to the quiet guys in the corner doing the real thinking.
ECU is supposed to report its 1Q2011 earnings tomorrow. Naturally, they will report a record metal production. However, their revenue might be lower than in 4Q2010 because in that quarter they also sold their stockpile of gold/pyrite concentrate. Also, the change from Canadian to international accounting standards might bring their earnings down, as the mining costs might no longer be deferred (as was the case with Canadian accounting standards). So it is really hard to guess how the market will react to their earnings tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteDavid, I'm anticipating GPL reports tomorrow as well.
ReplyDelete2nd_ave -- I just read our "homework assignment" and was quite impressed by the chart of S&P returns without the few best days. So I agree -- market timing is very difficult. As for buy-and-hold, that article does not give the FULL picture of how this method works. There is a VERY strong correlation between 10-year buy-and-hold returns and the initial P/E ratios, and I think it is silly to ignore this fact. Here are a couple of articles that have some nice graphs demonstrating this relationship:
ReplyDeletehttp://observationsandnotes.blogspot.com/2009/05/rolling-returns-vs-pe-ratio.html
http://observationsandnotes.blogspot.com/2011/01/start-pe-10-year-stock-market-return.html
I can't believe how much air play is being given to "we're in a soft patch, maybe it will be a full downturn" instead of "Hmm, the Japan Tsunami affected the world's integrated supply chain causing economic activity to slow, there should be a meaningful bounce back in the next few quarters".
ReplyDeleteDoesn't make for real exciting news...
All this selling BS and the dollar still hasn't touched 76...
ReplyDeleteGood point, BB Canada. You might be right about the economic activity rebounding in the next few quarters. However, the amazing run we had in the stock market over the past 2 years was mostly due to Fed and government stimulus. With that stimulus over now, the stock market can still deflate much more even if the economic activity recovers.
ReplyDeleteDavid, agree price (or P/E) paid is key to determining long term return.
ReplyDeleteDisagree that the chart showing returns without missing the few best days is valid. This is used by financial planners to keep people fully invested (and their commissions coming in). They never show you how much larger the return would be if you missed the xx worst days. And realistically, what are the odds you pull all your money out the day before one of the best days and then put it back in a day later.
Speaking of the dollar, looks like it just s**t the bed and closed the gap up...
ReplyDeleteWhat next?
Next, the dollar traders will either decide that it made a higher low over the past 3 months and will send it to a new 3-month high, or if $USD drops to $74, the chart will suggest strongly that it made a lower high over the past month, and so the dollar will drop to a new low. The next week should tell us how the dollar chart will unravel.
ReplyDeletehttp://seekingalpha.com/article/273992-why-gold-mining-stocks-are-bargain-priced-in-the-current-market
ReplyDeleteThe above article shows that the gold/silver analysts, as a group, are expecting that gold and silver will stay flat for another year and will steadily decline for years after that. This explains the obscenely low valuations assigned now to gold/silver miners. If gold and silver prices instead keep creeping up for years to come, then the mining stocks should eventually explode like they did in 2006, when junior miners went up by a factor of 10.
Just as a check on the above article, below is the link to a recent gold price forecast by Morningstar ($1200 by 2014).
http://blogs.barrons.com/focusonfunds/2011/04/22/morningstar-lowers-3-year-gold-price-forecast-by-28/
Chop chop...
ReplyDeleteFor some "chop chop", for some "ka ching!" :)
ReplyDeleteI could use some Chinese food, Chung-King! Pork fried rice, pot stickers and the whole works, please!
ReplyDeleteSilver - My understanding is $34.34 is the number to watch.
ReplyDeleteECU -- another high for the day, just as SLV is making another low for the day. The algo's must have really confused their buy and sell signals. :) Or maybe they are really reversing the strategy of buying the metal and selling the miners.
ReplyDeleteNaturally, the most heavily-shorted stock (ECU, which the hedgies brought down almost to the pre-QE2 level!) is rebounding the most. The time to enter buy-and-hold in such stocks (and borrow on credit cards for leverage) is when the crowd is selling all their shares in panic and their *valuations* are lowest. Seeing ECUXF at $0.7 in May was obviously the buying opportunity of the decade, because it was SO clear that it was an overreaction and such a low price could not last.
ReplyDeletenow that's more like it CSCO...back to your underperforming ways. the lower it goes the better it gets. net cash is now over 33% of their market cap.
ReplyDeleteECUXF - Very nice work, David! ;)
ReplyDeleteTGT - Hmm, looks like an opportunity there...
ReplyDeleteTOF- CSCO just isn't COOL.
ReplyDeleteSilver - I was wrong earlier, $34.48 is the pivot point.
ReplyDeleteBAL - Wonder how the global cotton crop's coming along?
ReplyDeleteI hear it's dryer than a popcorn fart in East Texas this year...
Wow Mark..COOL is HOT.
ReplyDeleteCash is cool too though...and CSCO has lots of it. I suspect a dividend raise is in order...
Cash - That's one thing I don't quite comprehend, is all this cash held in company coffers in U$D? If yes, so far this year isn't that just about a 15% haircut.?.?.?
ReplyDeleteI hate these type of comments, but I just got back and the ES is cooking. Any ideas?
ReplyDelete76.16 - If dollar moves through this level, the upside target of 78.81 would be in effect.
ReplyDeleteCurrent downside target is 59.97, I find it unlikely b/c I imagine that would scare the heck out of everyone...
CP- Scares me. So does the 10 minutes of the rep. debate replay I'm watching.
ReplyDeleteI haven't watched any news again tonight, I guess I'd better...
ReplyDeleteES rise.China had good numbers for some econ BS hard to figure who does these numbers because hasn't every accountant in China resigned by now? Speaking of that I wonder what happened with wonder auto parts. Is it trading some where yet?
ReplyDeleteWATG- Nope. Man, look at BORN/DANG/RENN....yikers.
ReplyDelete"Naturally, the most heavily-shorted stock (ECU, which the hedgies brought down almost to the pre-QE2 level!) is rebounding the most. The time to enter buy-and-hold in such stocks (and borrow on credit cards for leverage) is when the crowd is selling all their shares in panic and their *valuations* are lowest. Seeing ECUXF at $0.7 in May was obviously the buying opportunity of the decade, because it was SO clear that it was an overreaction and such a low price could not last. "
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts exactly...on CSCO
Hussman this Sunday concurred with me about the great value offered by mining stocks now:
ReplyDelete"Notably, and in contrast to the broad stock and bond markets, our measures of prospective return/risk in gold shares has surged, with falling long-term yields, negative real interest rates, weakening economic statistics and a very high gold/XAU ratio all provoking a distinct jump in our expected return/risk measures for gold stocks (see my 1999 article Going for the Gold for a discussion of some of these factors). Accordingly, we've built Strategic Total Return's exposure to precious metals shares to nearly 18% of assets, which is significant, but far from the most aggressive 30% exposure that the Fund could hold (which would require stronger inflation pressures and a weaker ISM, combining to create severe pressure on the U.S. dollar). Even near 18% of assets, however, fluctuations in gold stocks are likely to be the most important driver of day-to-day fluctuations in the Fund here."
"WATG- Nope. Man, look at BORN/DANG/RENN....yikers."
ReplyDeleteA trading hold placed on WATG might actually be what saved that stock from a total disaster. If the trading hold stays in effect until WATG restates all its earnings and comes clean of all allegations against it, then it will start rebounding from the $5.42 level, rather than the $3.xx level at which it might have been trading by now...
China - Obviously since the dow was up today they need to raise bank reserve requirements again.
ReplyDeleteYou've likely seen this chart showing the 200 year upwards trend between Dow and Gold.
ReplyDeletehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/_cW4kucEGIgI/STWyrHN7mtI/AAAAAAAAA3s/wo_USOcWSdA/s1600-h/12-1si.jpg
The only time in the last 200 years that this chart fell to lower than where it is now (7.8) was during the early 1980's when price controls on gold game off and it became a speculative game. The gold bulls will say the ultimate target is in the 1 range (1 ounce of gold will buy the Dow) based on connecting the last 2 lows. That may well happen, but I personally think the risk / reward here is very stretched.
Besides PPI, the only thing I find interesting is an upgrade of CLR to $75.
ReplyDeletewould love to fade the opening gaps in the ES and TF but price action just won't confirm the short....gotta stick with my methodology.
ReplyDeleteXHB back above support. Still long?
ReplyDeletedow:gold - I'm not anticipating a 1:1 ratio but if were to happen it looks like that wouldn't occur for another 20 years anyway.
ReplyDeleteBEXP - Hey what's up with that price? I'm thinking of buying again but after yesterday's action I'm way too chicken...
ReplyDeletedow:gold - The other possibility that might meet the 1:1 criteria might occur if the dow were to sell off to extreme levels...
ReplyDeleteAs far as charting goes, it'll be interesting to see if silver can make it up to the inflation adjusted Hunt brothers high...
BEXP- Don't know. Maybe they are presenting now?
ReplyDeleteDANG is up 15% and it just hit R1.
ReplyDeleteBEXP - I'm gonna be counting on the gap up closing, so I'll try catching it somewhere under 26.61 if they wanna let me back in.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess my question now is if the reps are gonna allow the federal debt and housing industry woes be inflated away, or if they actually have a few constructive ideas for improving the economy, like removing offshoring incentives and ceasing support of authoritarian regimes, waging war on the middle east, etc....???
ReplyDeleteRe-entering the house of pain...bought some more CSCO Aug $14 calls at $1.31. Now have at avg price of $1.37.
ReplyDeleteThe latest news out today is that RBC downgraded them to underperform with a $14 price target. Funny thing is they had an outperform until today. I don't know who's worse: them or Moody's.
TOF - I think we can assume the ratings agencies are only doing what they're told to do. ;)
ReplyDeleteBEXP - Well they closed the gap. Isn't that just the most amazing play of all of them?
ReplyDeleteAdded some more CSCO Calls > this time CSCO $13 calls expiring in September at $2.19.
ReplyDeleteI now have about $20k in options in CSCO. Currently down about $700.
Yep, amazing and I sat on my hands watching it. No position in BEXP.
ReplyDeleteCSCO - I'm down a lot more than on my first entry of 500 shares but I did make up for some of it by trading the stock a couple times since then.
ReplyDeletethan that ($700).
ReplyDeleteBEXP - Well, the volume has been running above average the past few sessions and yesterday the RSI-7 fell under 30. Money flow seems to have leveled off from the negative slope.
ReplyDeleteA close over $27.17 would be constructive.
FD: No position, still spooked over yesterday's action. I wanna watch for awhile.
Down $700 on CSCO? That's not bad at all, considering the way it's moved mostly in one direction at what seems like a snail's pace.
ReplyDeleteI don't watch it closely though, only an occasional peek.
GPL - I'm down about %500 right now, was down $4k a few short days ago.
ReplyDelete$500
ReplyDeleteTGT - Coming back from the dead, time to order the Christmas decorations?
ReplyDeleteMost big, integrated oils have held at their 200 daily EMA while the smaller producers have failed that test. BP, HES and PBR are exceptions to that first statement and PXP/APA are exceptions amongst the producers and have held the 200.
ReplyDeleteCRM is strong today, outpacing the Q's
ReplyDeleteCommodities rise:
ReplyDelete"An oversold rally in global equity markets is helping commodities rise this morning, despite the fact that the inflation rate in China hit a 34-month high. China's Consumer Price Index for May rose by 5.5 percent year-over-year, matching expectations, but up from 5.3 percent in the prior month. The fact that the figure didn't come in even higher was a relief to many, but the People's Bank of China responded by lifting its bank reserve requirements for the ninth time since October after the news. Meanwhile, other China data for May showed that growth in the country remains robust, which is perhaps why markets were able to take the CPI release in stride. May industrial production rose by 13.3 percent year-over-year, besting the 13.1 percent consensus, while retail sales grew by 16.9 percent, near the 17 percent expectation."
http://www.hardassetsinvestor.com/morning-call-archive/2794-commodities-rise-despite-china-reserve-requirement-hike-surging-inflation.html
Oilers under the 200 - Maybe that's the best they can do in their attempt to clobber commodities???
ReplyDelete"The gold bulls will say the ultimate target is in the 1 range (1 ounce of gold will buy the Dow) based on connecting the last 2 lows. That may well happen, but I personally think the risk / reward here is very stretched."
ReplyDeleteBB Canada: US has NEVER had such a large national debt as a percentage of GDP (500% if we account for "off-balance sheet vehicles" such as Medicare, Medicaid and SOS) and such a huge budget deficit with NO prospects (according to the CBO) of it going down for decades to come. So this time IS different, and charts from more than a few years ago should not be used for predicting the price of gold. The best prediction of its future price, I think, is the linear extrapolation of its trend since 2002. That trend shows the rate at which new USD are being pumped into the system, and that rate is not about to go down.
UPS - Still a gap up that needs closing...
ReplyDeleteDavid, I agree completely.
ReplyDeleteCP - Having refinery's is helping big oil now whereas they were a drag just a couple years ago. Also, the small producers are more sensitive to the price of crude than the big integrated. BP and PBR are special cases and are just not favored by Wall Street. That's my take on it.
GPL - "09:26AM Great Panther Silver Reports Record Quarterly Net Income of $7 Million"
ReplyDeleteHere is a screen on oil, if it comes through:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=171&t=XOM,CVX,COP,MRO,OXY,APA,PXP,PBR,HES,PXD,FST,NBL,MMR,STO,BP,ARD&o=-marketcap
Glencore new 52wk low: Stuck in muddy waters?
ReplyDeletehttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/Glencore-chairman-caught-up-rb-4212257644.html?x=0&.v=1
illini - Good point re: refineries, now it seems the spread between WTI and brent has helped refineries so I hear.
ReplyDeleteWNR - ZZZZOOOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
ReplyDeleteOil - My vision going forward though, involves sucking as much oil out of shale as possible to power the economy on domestic crude and reverse the trade deficit.
ReplyDeleteSupposedly we've got over 100 years supply of oil, coal and gas if we're willing to tap them.
David, you may well be right, but I would be cautious about extrapolating a strong bull market in gold for too far - that's how many people got in trouble with the tech stocks.
ReplyDeleteThe thing you have to be cautious of is gold mines underinvested for almost 20 years from the early 80's to around 2000 due to declining gold prices. The most successful miners were ones like Barrick who made a lot money hedging the gold price. Since demand for all commodities started to increase due to China becoming a modern country in 2000, there has been a bull market in gold and other commodities. Since the bull market started, there has been a ton of capital put into finding and developing mines, so you see certain commodities starting to go into surplus (eg. nickel). There are now almost 1700 mining companies on the TSX Venture exchange all out there trying to find gold and other minerals. At some point, supply will start to approach demand and prices will fall.
As far as the US debt goes, I have confidence that the government will do something to fix this (and maybe this will turn out to the flaw in my investing strategy).
Good luck
Bought some Cascades today (CAS in Canada, CADNF in the US). They are a containboard / packaging / tissue company and trade at about half the valuation that International Paper is paying for Temple-Inland. Pay a 2% yield, about half of book value, out of favour industry that will bounce back with an improving economy.
ReplyDeleteShould see better pricing as International Paper rationalizes these 2 companies.
BB/David - My belief is you both have good points, it's healthy to consider both sides of the argument.
ReplyDeleteI'll take my half out of the middle, my prediction falls somewhere in between.
Buy something at the bottom of the range and sell it at the top, rinse and repeat...???
CADNF - Haven't looked at that one yet, thanks for pointing it out. I just looked at BZ though, pretty beaten up. The problem I have with PK's involves my lame broker.
ReplyDeleteBTW, speaking of lame brokers, I guess they've been pulling the wollen fibers of margin from under the Chinese listings.
Ladies.
ReplyDeleteGPL - I think this is the first equity I've owned that actually rallied pre and post earnings.
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