Sunday, October 7, 2012
Forecasting 101> Midterm essay
We've heard the term 'generational low(s)' in association with prescient calls twice in the past ten years.
(a) The first was Cara's call to buy gold in the Fall of 2003. I lost my (platinum) wedding band around that time. The little guy (who has a knack for finding lost items!) eventually found it about a year later. In the meantime, I replaced it with a gold band, and we were shocked at how far gold prices had dropped- from a high of 380 earlier in the year to around 320 at time of replacement. Gold is now trading at 1780 (with Cara targeting 2500), so obviously a great call. And the gold band has turned into a great investment decision!
(b) The second occurred in March 2009, when Kass declared the SPX/DJIA to have hit generational lows at 670/6700.
(c) Kass went on to call another 'generational low' in bond yields when he decided to short bonds about a year ago. He tends to be early on his calls (his March '09 call notwithstanding). In this case, he also made the mistake of using TBT (a leveraged 2x inverse fund) to back his call. So he's taken a beating on that trade. I think he's right, however, from a long-term perspective. In 1981, 30-year Treasury bonds were yielding 14.68% risk-free! It's now 2012, and if you bought those bonds in 1981, you've had a pretty good thirty years! It's just a matter of time before the trade runs in reverse, and I would tend to avoid bond funds for the next few years.
(d) When many of us retire several years from now, bond yields will hopefully be back around 8-9%, and we can all park our portfolios in Treasury bonds and forget about the stock market.
(e) Right now, of course, we have little choice but to invest in stocks. Expectations for a correction in October are running pretty high. So it's unlikely prices pull back much, if at all. My forecast (all in fun) is that we correct 2-3% in October (I'm currently parked in cash hoping for another buying opportunity), followed by a spike up in November. The indexes (with seasonal winds at their backs) should continue higher in December and January. By February/March, everyone will be on board, and I foresee a -10% or greater drop into Spring '13. I'm not necessarily recommending any action based on the forecast- I'll be happy just being able to look back in six months without wincing too much!
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Forecasts are all based on historical averages and past reactions under similar conditions.
ReplyDeleteWhereas short-term moves in the market are all about fading expectations. Almost like carrying an umbrella on a sunny day.
It seems as if all the dire predictions for October have traders fading those predictions, which in turn increases the likelihood of those predictions being right.
ReplyDeleteOctober's actually not a bad month on average - it's just when really bad things happen, they tend to happen in October. The reason I've heard for this is companies always try and make their numbers for the year (usually calendar). By then end of Q3, they usually have a good feel if they have a chance or not and, if not, they tend to give up on the year and issue larger than usual warnings.
ReplyDeleteIn the past 20 years, October is the third-best-performing month, posting average gains of 1.8% and finishing up 70% of the time, according to Bespoke Investment Group. It ranks seventh over the past 50 years and No. 8 in the last 100 years.
Re Kass, he was trying to call the bottom in the market in fall of 2008 as well, but was early then and I say he just got lucky using the "generational" terminology in March, 2009.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, he is, as you say, generally correct and early on calls. He was also early on his call on bond yield lows, but I do think he is correct. It's hard to know for sure if we have seen the bottom on yields, but the yield chart on the 10 year does appear to show that we are starting to make a series of higher highs and higher lows.
The other side of the coin is that my reading on the history of bond cycles says that the cycles tend to last much longer than pretty much anyone thinks - it seems that is the case already to me, but I could easily be wrong and it could extend. None of us have lived through a bond yield bottoming cycle as the last one was in the 1950's / 1960's.
CP,
ReplyDeleteI've thought about DELL as well as HPQ. Charts are pretty similar over the last year and both have a high dependence on PC's.
Wondered if it was just guys like us who use PC's for trading / work who still used them a lot so asked my 19 year old daughter what she thought about PC's and the idea of using smart phones and tablets as a replacement for a PC and she is saying no-way, the PC is still very necessary.
Feels like the are both being piled on now by the analysts and business community, so both should be good for at least a bounce I would think.
Gold - Dropped under $1780, probably a buying opportunity.
ReplyDeleteAlthough, it appears to me the US economy remains a bright spot from a global perspective, thus providing support for the dollar.
evening gents
ReplyDeletetrying to remember what i've done since my last post. about the only thing significant is i've lost about $1800 or so trying to go long AAPL. I see tof made money on the short side. At one point i was up $2k but i was holding on for bigger gains and it didn't happen.
PHM, sold half early last week at my first sell target, holding the other half with a stop in at breakeven.
Also bought some RIMM at these levels with a stop loss in place. Not much besides that.
i sent jesse an email asking him 1) should we be buying the dips on natty and 2) is it ok then to sell puts on TBT pullbacks.
ReplyDeleteI already have small positions in ACI, JRCC, and ANR. I'll be adding to all of those this week. Any others you guys like?
i went long a few SDS Friday just below the closing price. I'm looking for a bounce to $54 ish but I have no problem keeping my losses around $500 or so.
ReplyDeleteI saw a teaser on silver today where the salesman(author) says silver is going to $60 because industrial demand is picking up. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
From last week's BMO silver report:
DeleteCOMEX silver inventories continue to hover around the 140Moz mark.
COMEX silver inventory levels remain elevated, near ~15-year record high levels.
As a result, market concerns over a potential silver supply surplus persist.
The net speculative position in silver grew slightly last week, with a small week-over-week gain in the number of short positions outweighed by an increase in the
number of long speculative positions.
The number of short speculative positions in silver continues to float near a five-month low.
There was a net outflow of ~1.3Moz in ETF physical silver holdings over the last week largely due to decreases in SLV and ZKB holdings.
The year-to-date net inflow for silver ETF holdings is ~34Moz.
BMO Research assumes a net ETF inflow of 50Moz by the end of the year.
The silver forward curve is now above year-ago levels, and is well above where it sat last month.
so AAPL, if you look at the chart, it looks a bit like a head and shoulders to me with the left shoulder starting on 8/24 or 8/31, take your pick. I show it sitting right at the neckline as of Friday's close around 652. A high of $705 - 652 = $53, so 652 - 53 gives me a price target of $599 so we'll see what happens.
ReplyDeleteI did like the samsung commercial I saw today while watching a little football.
"I already have small positions in ACI, JRCC, and ANR. I'll be adding to all of those this week. Any others you guys like?"
ReplyDeleteThe fact that NG is making higher lows and higher highs for a while now does suggest that a big turnaround in coal may occur soon. The coal charts look like the producers may have bottomed out. Of course, the chart of coal stocks also looked that way between October 2011 and January 2012... So I think a reasonable strategy might be to buy ANR on a break out above $7 and place a sell stop at the last week's low of $6.25. As Deron on CC is constantly repeating: don't jump the gun. Wait for for an upside breakout, at least from the horizontal channel made over the last 2 weeks.
HDGE @ 20.52
ReplyDeleteBidding YRCW @ 6.50.
ReplyDeleteMiners - Some were actually green and a couple still are(GPL/GGB), not sure why...
ReplyDeleteUWM - I almost bought this one near today's low, till I saw Deron's bearish (short term?) post on the possibility of a "significant correction".
Hmm.... Things don't look quite as bad now as just following the open.
FIO - Energizer bunny over there...
ReplyDeleteNSPH - Someone wants in, it seems...
ReplyDeleteINTC - I've still got a bid on this one @ $21.21
ReplyDeleteAUMN - If due to some inexplicable stroke of fate this one drops below $4, I'll feel very compelled (obligated) to take a position.
ReplyDeleteWal-Mart announces cellphone bill pay?
ReplyDeleteNLY - This thing's just getting too cheap.
ReplyDeleteI was able to ski for a couple of hours again Saturday, my arms and shoulders are feeling it but my brain cloud persists.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't physical exercise immediately translate to improved brain function?
heightened neurons...
Deletehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18201113
NIFTI - Have you guys read any explanations for the 16% NIFTY plunge last week?
ReplyDeleteMaybe someone can come up with a much better explanation for this flash crash then they neglected to for ours?
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$CNXN&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p15748495279
I'll bet it eventually hits that -16% target within the next few weeks. Another prescient flash crash.
DeleteYep, a retest of that area is what I'm thinking as well.
DeleteTransports are lining up for a big move north. Coals continue to look awesome. That big point from X we were looking at from a few days ago is now almost 10% lower than current prices.
ReplyDeleteCoal is this week's recipient of forty one basic elements, six abrupt reversals of position, and three outright lies.
DeleteThe irony is, Mitt's such a smokin' name for a Muppet, why cut PBS funding now?
And why should delegating the acquisition of an anniversary gift to Secret Service personnel, be such an issue?
Delete"then they neglected"
ReplyDelete"Than" sounded awkward in place of "then", although it would have correct. But then again, flash crashes are awkward to begin with.
YRCW - Must've triggered an algo?
ReplyDeleteNSPH - .39->.49->.59->.39...
ReplyDeleteFinally, AUMN is relatively outperforming GDXJ today. But I am still amazed at the second spot-on advise that 2nd_ave gave me to get the hell out of AUMN when it rose above $7. Amazing feeling for when a trade get locally overcroweded...
ReplyDeleteAn unfortunate piece of info for those long PM sector has just crossed my radar: the latest net long small speculator position in silver futures has reached 20K contracts, consistent with levels seen just before major crashes in silver. The net long small speculator position in gold rose to a 15-year high. This will not end well, given the sideways motion of silver/gold over the past few weeks. The lows of this sideways channel will be broken, and small speculators will have to exit their positions before gold/silver can resume their long-term upward trend.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure what to do about AUMN, though -- it is SO undervalued right now, and I feel that buying it now at $4.70 is less risky than buying it in May at $3.70, since the company now has the cash they need to raise their throughput to 850 tpd and become solidly cashflow positive. So I decided to put up for sale at $1.20 all my shares of PNPFF that I acquired in July at $0.86, so as to raise the cash I might later use to buy AUMN if it drops to low $4's.
Seems like Commercials have been adding to their Platinum short position and covering their dollar short position, no telling what their time horizon for the trade is:
Deletehttp://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=PL&p=d1
http://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=DX&p=w1
Aren't we usually the last to know?
3D Chocolate object printer:
ReplyDeletehttp://the-gadgeteer.com/2012/04/15/choc-edge-3d-chocolate-printer/
I watched the whole 2:28 sec video...
DeleteI didn't, how'd it look?
DeleteIt was kinda silly. It just showed the tip on a CNC machine that dripped out choclate in the shape of a square's perimeter.
Delete$UTIL - Is this chart in the process of rolling over or just taking a breather, the 13EMA is now kissing the 8EMA on this weekly chart.
ReplyDeleteWhat's that you say, a chart link would be helpful?
ReplyDeletehttp://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$UTIL&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p77428111078
Oops! ;)
mark - did you pick up any YRCW? i noticed it was down in the 6.50's for a bit. chart still looks good:
ReplyDeletehttp://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=YRCW&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=t17507913169&r=1349726652044
Full stochastics triggered a buy signal a couple of days ago and they're trending back up again. RSI looks like it's continuing a trend higher from July. OBV looks good too. Same chart with OBV below:
http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=YRCW&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=t46779640786&r=1349726791207
Trying. Didn't get a fill. maybe tomorrow.
DeleteRockwell International Integrated Space Plan (Priliminary Version, 1969)
ReplyDeletehttp://makezineblog.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/space-plan-scan-touched-up-001.pdf
XLU - $36.43 entry, catch it if you can(or want to).....
ReplyDeleteSPR - This one's down 15% off it's recent high, RSI(7) on weekly is 31. Could be good entry area?
NATI - I've got a bid set on this one a hair under $21
ReplyDeleteARNA - Do ya'll like this coil?
ReplyDeleteWhat's a ya'll anyhow, sounds like flotsam off a sale bote....?!?!?
DeleteHikers couch:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.singulier.com/sofa-club-sofa-01-eastpak,us,4,02080086.cfm
Electricity update, Sept 27th: NG/coal consumption figures for July 2012 vs July 2011
ReplyDeleteCoal consumption was down 8.1%
NG Consumption was up by 15.8%
http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/update/
NLY - Wow, I thought for sure this one would close in the green...
ReplyDeletePFG - Apparently those trading accounts that were ransacked while regulatory authorities looked the other way just happened to be metals accounts.
ReplyDeleteGosh, now there couldn't possibly be any connection with regulatory authorities, currency debasement and metals, could there?
Canada - Hey, the data from Canada last week was pretty decent as well. Mostly housing though, not so much manufacturing. Is the Canadian housing market overheating?
ReplyDeleteWe are seeing some pullbacks in Canadian housing, but nothing major so far. Vancouver has taken the biggest hit, but it was the most overvalued.
DeleteThe government recently got stopped insuring 30 and 35 year mortgages to try and stop people from over-extending themselves, so we are seeing some pressure on the low end of housing and therefore the tradeup marktet. Plus people are being cautious in areas like Waterloo where RIM is located and layoffs are high.
Overall, I'd say things are still OK and ideally we have a few years of flatish house prices. The bad scenario would be a pullback here, but we have stricter laws than the US re mortgages (eg. if you walk away from a mortgage, the bank can go after your other assets for payment), so a US style crash is still unlikely unless we see a major pullback in commodity prices.
If you like Canadian housing, the best way I see to play it is through mortgage insurer Genworth Financial Canada (MIC in Toronto). They are very cheap, pay a good dividend, have a great ROE, but people are avoiding I think due to concerns about the housing market and how the mortgage insurers in the US got crushed. If people get more comfortable about house prices, this should be an easy double.
DeleteFSLR - Looking at this chart, my inclination is it should be bought here and on any weakness.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I'm not a huge proponent of solar, surely the federal monies already spent could have been used to keep teachers on the payroll instead.
I read somewhere that Japan is using, or trying to use, more solar. It might have been in that silver teaser email I was reading though.
DeleteTITN - Has been rising from the ashes, perhaps it falls once more to retest support and I manage to catch it this time?
ReplyDeleteDE - Looks like $100 is in the works.
ReplyDeleteAA - PE of 132, a good example of how earnings are a lagging indicator?
ReplyDeletemy work peeps were back in the office today. They were at an energy boondoggle last week and they said the main topic was oil. No one wants to talk about natty.
ReplyDeleteWhat a boring day. All i did was raise my stop on my PHM long. I did that after reading Geoff's morning notes about tightening up stops.
ReplyDeleteI still have my SDS which appears to be a big mistake at the moment.
Here's a Seeking Alpha article on CHUY
ReplyDeletehttp://seekingalpha.com/article/910721-chuy-s-another-overvalued-restaurant-company?source=yahoo
HDGE closed @ 20.55. No conviction.
ReplyDeleteJOY - Wow, I wasn't expecting that.
ReplyDeleteARNA - Breaking to upside, looks like.
ReplyDeleteINTC - Still coming to me.
What's your INTC target?
Delete$21.21 is my bid, what do you think of this number?
DeleteTITN - Should fall to $20.92 but might not be a good entry considering the IMF is short.
ReplyDeleteHII - This thing's a monster.
ReplyDeleteQuick, dump all your stocks!
ReplyDeleteCoals and Steel looking good.
ReplyDeletePerhaps due to Asian stimulus expectations?
Deletewho knows...but the charts were looking excellent a few days ago from a risk-reward perspective.
Delete$USD - 80 seems to be pretty strong resistance but maybe it can break through?
ReplyDeleteYRCW doing it's usual bounce off the $6.50ish area. Been a daily occurrence for about 3 weeks now.
ReplyDeleteYeah, NSPH does the same damn thing.
DeleteI wouldn't mind trading NSPH if it would drop a bit closer to $3 then I would double my position and just trade half in and out for these ripples.
Spanish banks passed stress tests, just like Greek banks, etc., did.... What I don't get is why shareholders don't get wiped out before regulatory authorities bail these banks out at taxpayer expense. Without bailouts these banks are bankrupt, right?
URS - This company's hiring in the DC area, just heard their advert on the DC station.
ReplyDeleteShould we be buying the tits off QLD?
ReplyDeletehttp://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=%24COMPQ&p=W&yr=14&mn=0&dy=0&id=p42539441839&a=258677702&r=766
Take a look at the huge move higher in BONT. Keep in mind that they lost $1.20 last year, and at 1/27/12 (their year end) they had the following balance sheet:
ReplyDeleteCash - $14.2 Million
Debt - $871 Million
Market cap was about $80 Million. They had 10 times their market cap in debt. THey were losing money. However they were trading at a price to sales ratio of 0.028. With turnarounds, I almost always look at price to sales because most companies have big fixed cost structures that result in huge losses when sales turn down, even if the drop isn't significant. So valuing a company on earnings or price to book is irrelevant. Instead, should a company survive a turnaround effort, it's the price relative to sales that matters most. Companies cut the sh*t out of expenses and then focus on growing sales again.
The next time you hear someone say that a company can't overcome a huge debt load and that the stock should be worthless, just keep BONT in mind. I've seen so many companies like this over the past 4 years its crazy. SIRI, LVS, GCI are a few that come to mind.
I see the same exact things with YRCW.
What value of P/S makes for a decent threshold, just lower is better?
Deletei like looking at relative to others in industry.
DeleteOpening AUMN @ 4.47
ReplyDeleteConsistent with my previous plan that I voiced a couple of days ago (buying ANR if it rises above the resistance at $7), I just purchased 1000 shares at $7.14 -- some diversification away from AUMN! 2nd_ave bought AUMN for me, so I could buy something different... :)
ReplyDeleteSeems like a bet on Mitt to me.
Deletestopped out on my remaining PHM shares. That was a good Landry style trade. I'll be watching for another entry.
ReplyDeleteI like the ANR trade, I just sold OCT7 Strike puts for $.32. Will put my cost at $6.73 if put to me or a return of 4.5% in 2 weeks.
awesome looking charts on small caps:
ReplyDeleteEMAN
EMMS - huge insider buying
FFEX - another turnaround story...huge upside potential
2nd_ave -- I hope you keep these AUMN shares until they announce that they have reached the 850 tpd throughput. This is one of those cases where there is a clearly defined event that is worth waiting for and not looking at the price until that event occurs...
ReplyDeleteThat's just not me, bro.
DeleteCould not hold myself -- just purchased 10 contracts of AUMN April $2.50 calls at $2.20.
ReplyDeleteYUM - I see what looks like some insider selling, might we observe $64 in the near future?
ReplyDeleteNLY - Reached $16.11... Damn, can't take my eyes off anything for a half day!
ReplyDeleteIWM looks like a buy very soon...wait for a touch of the 50 DMA perhaps.
ReplyDeleteAt this rate, $80 might even happen. QLD to $55?
DeleteCoal, huh? Okay, now all of a sudden we love coal....
ReplyDeleteAUMN closed flat.
ReplyDeleteMade a few bucks trading the drop in BAC> opened @ 9.12, closed @ 9.21.
Since I effectively purchased 1K shares of AUMN today at $4.70, I lowered my existing sell limit orders on AUMN to $5 for 500 shares at $5.50 for 1000 shares. I finally feel that my core position in AUMN had reached a large enough size (50K shares), and now I am ready to trade whatever shares I pick up in excess of my core position (I am about 3K shares above now).
ReplyDeleteINTC - Ah hum, how do ya like that last bar?
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