Sunday, June 22, 2014

(Look) Back to the Future/ The Recurring Bygone Era

I recall a mid-Eighties ad in Time Magazine which pictured a (successful enough to be sitting here in my shirtsleeves at this time of day) stock broker inside a cafe reading the Journal.  The image stayed with me and reworked itself into an application to the Michigan Business School.  In October 1987 the markets crashed.  We can argue about the reasons (program trading, for instance), but in my mind the cause was simply an overvalued market.

In 1999, the dot.com revolution led to massive daily percentage gains in the stocks of companies remarkable mainly for losing money.  During that period, you could often find me in my shirtsleeves inside a cafe reading the Wall Street Journal.  There was no question the markets were overvalued, but allowing that to 'matter' was an impediment to trading.  When concerns about valuation finally flowed into prices around the Summer of 2000, the price movements were violent.

2005 was memorable for the sights encountered while driving Bay Area freeways: large numbers of new high-end coupes and SUVs aggressively navigated to and from new home developments.  Countrywide and Washington Mutual were hiring anyone with a pulse to help market loans to anyone with a pulse.  The ending to this story was best captured in an April 2007 vignette about two migrant workers in Watsonville:  http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Minorities-are-the-emerging-face-of-the-subprime-2565428.php

The housing crisis had minimal effect on broader financial markets at first.  In retrospect, this can be attributed to the amount of time it took investors to 'understand' the complex financial instruments used to market subprime mortgages, and the effect that foreclosures would have on their valuations.  As of today, I doubt much progress has been made in that area, so the 2008 Crash may have just been the pricing-in of a 'worst case scenario' by confused market participants.

Now it's Summer 2014.  Many of the same people who lost their jobs in 2008 are still looking.  Most new jobs created ask minimal qualifications.  Housing prices have recovered in many Bay Area locations, but I don't believe it's a result of economic growth.  More likely, it's due to a combination of foreign demand (cash moving in from China and India) and limited supply (lack of new home construction, current owners reluctant to give up mortgages refinanced at 40-year lows).  The S&P 500 has remained above its 200-day moving area for over 18 months, an extraordinary streak.

What's next?  It takes me back to 2005.  Traders are buying every dip, however shallow.  Anyone with a pulse is a bull, and bears are in hibernation.  2005 was not the time to buy into the American Dream.  And now is not the time to be buying into the US stock market.  As always, JMO.

203 comments:

  1. TOF, re Contra the Heard, he offers a paid subscription for live picks. I have gotten it a couple of times in 2001 and 2008 as I find him very helpful to trading when markets turn down. I don't find him that helpful during markets like this as he tends to just hold the stocks he picked up cheap in the last bear and generally looks to sell these at historical highs and then waits for the next big downturn to reload.

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    1. That sounds like a strategy I would like to learn. Buying assets on sale has never been a problem, but holding through a full bull cycle is.

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    2. He has written a book: http://www.amazon.ca/Contrarian-Investors-13-Benj-Gallander/dp/0670043362

      I think the key for him in being able to hold a stock is he figures out a sell target right away, so he is not tempted to take profits too quickly. Too easy for emotion to take over without a plan.

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  2. Seeing calls for a blow-off top. Hard to say how many calls would constitute 'too many' of them. Buying at peaks in hopes of further gains is not my style, of course.

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    1. All we've seen are peaks basically, this could go on forever!

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  3. If any of you guys got Jesse's latest free letter would you forward it to me? I see on twitter that he sent one out but I didn't get it. The last one I got was in May.

    Thanks

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    1. I don't see one in my inbox or spam either, sorry. Wonder if he's forecasting further upside?

      Did you get back into EPAM?

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    2. I didn't get it either.

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  4. Private bankers say wealthy are holding onto cash - "Investment advisors estimate up to 40 percent of their money remains un-invested and is still parked in deposits."


    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/17/us-wealth-summit-idUSKBN0ES2DQ20140617

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  5. NSPH- Seems strange they sign a deal about a month ago and release the news today?

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    1. That way insiders have their chance to load up on free shares.

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  6. I'm already regretting selling HIMX and PCRX.

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  7. TZA - Thought it'd be back to $16 by now 4 sure, not happening??? :(

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  8. AA - This one's gonna be $15 soon!

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    1. Still holding. Might now even be a bad buy here as things are going well for the company, but a pullback would obviously be safer.

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  9. I picked up PIR at $15.5 and SNE at $16.8 for my in laws accounts. I think the fears on PIR are overblown. The company is now trading at about 13 times FCF and earnings for 2014 (guidance was given last week by mgmt).

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  10. TZA - Took the loss, Out @ 14.25 from my $14.28 entry. Now it can rock & roll!

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  11. Hilarious: "Coach downgraded to Equipment Manager"

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  12. One of my Canadian energy stocks which trades in the US, may be good for a buy here. I bought it back in 2010, for $3,89, but it just continues to execute well and has a good land position, so I continue to hold and am thinking of adding, although it is a large position and I have to watch my risk.

    The reminiscenses guy had a good writeup on it this weekend (http://reminiscencesofastockblogger.com/2014/06/22/taking-advantage-of-the-disappointment-with-bellatrix/) and thinks it gets to $12, up 33%.

    Chartwise, it's pulled back from C$11.50 to $9 and appears to be do a retest and building a double bottom.

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  13. Long HMY at $2.97. I officially hate myself.

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    1. Goldbug - see you over at Cara's!

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    2. Just flipped over to Cara for probably the first time in a year and Geoff has an interesting set of graphs to help determine whether or not to buy dips - makes a lot of sense, but of course you'd have to test it against the different types of markets to see how well it works and handles black swan type events.

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    3. Yeah I hate the fact that I'm on the side of the gold bugs. HMY seems like a good place to park some money if the price of gold stays up. Seems like there's a lot of value in those shares. If the price of gold stays up here then there should be a retracement to the $5 or so area.

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  14. GOldman give GM a buy: http://money.cnn.com/2014/06/23/investing/general-motors-goldman-sachs/index.html?source=yahoo_quote

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  15. Stopped myself out of 3/4 of SNE at $16.74. I don't have an exact reason why other than I have had no luck trading this thing for the entire year. It probably rips higher tomorrow and leaves me high and dry.

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    1. I bought a chunk at $16.2, added a good deal more at $16.8 so I barely made money on it. I traded it 3 other times this year and lost every time. I think it does rally at some point and rally hard but I'm also mindful of the fact that it is a money losing business in its current state, the CEO guided for more losses, and the culture of that company is just unwilling to make drastic changes.

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  16. Added a little more HMY at $2.99. Just shoot me if I end up buying AUMN :)

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  17. Re SNE,
    There are lots of cheap Japanese companies now that the lower YEN will help, but it just seems that Japanese companies are culturally willing to live with poor profits for years. Plus they have huge demographics problems to deal with.

    We've got a guy up in Canada, Lorne Steinberg, who is big on Japan and goes on TV and talks about things like:

    "Hosiden is another compellingly cheap Japanese company in the electronics business. It is involved in a number of niche markets and has been consistently profitable over the years and has no debt. As for valuation, it is trading for less than its net cash! Japan still offers so many ridiculously cheap values."

    Makes sense to buy and it is on OTC markets, but his fund has done fine, not great, so it could be just waiting for these to come through or maybe he is wrong.

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    1. RIG and DO, possible bottoming

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    2. I was looking at ESV a few weeks ago around $50. The problem now is these drillers are about 20% off their bottoms now, so more risk.

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    3. RIG and ESV look similiar on daily and both pay plus 5% div which is something I'm becoming more interested in. It is possible that DO could play catch up to the others.

      Even thought hey are up 20% they still look good and one can always look for pull backs for entry.

      Looking at the monthly charts I have a preference for RIG or DO over ESV, but that's just me and I know you look and have great insight into fundy's which is a real asset that I'm weak in.

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    4. When I looked at them, I thought ENS had the best value, as well as good dividend and was a good business.

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  19. 23-Jun-14 07:08PM Dean Foods, Clorox subpoenaed in Icahn in insider-trading probe: WSJ

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    1. It never ceases to amaze me how often the top 1% engage (or continue to engage) in illegal activities even after amassing a fortune.

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  20. On the road all day (Sacto), and glad I was. Had I been at home trading, I'm certain my balances would have suffered.

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    1. No email here either, but I know jesse's had delivery problems in the past.

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  21. NWLI - Annual shareholder meeting a few days ago. Insider ownership is just 0.3%, I thought it was much higher than that. Maybe we discussed this previously....

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  22. A little worried about t3d, who went long IWM @ 43.69 today ;)

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    1. I don't disagree with that trade, but I have to admit I'm tired of getting stopped out of every short trade I've made this year.

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    2. I last sold TWM at 48.18, so seems reasonable here, but I still would prefer if it breaks 7 dema which basically breaks the down trendline. But it feels like it wants to turn down.

      We both suffer from shorttermtosis I'm just tend to try to hold a few days longer, Really want to change that going forward with another basket that's intermediate to LT, but's it going to be a tough transition for me.

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  23. I sent Jesse an email asking him about the report. It could be one of those paid subscriber things but I wouldn't think he would mention that on Stocktwits. I have Mark's email so I'll forward it on if Jesse sends me somethings.

    Here's Jesse's comment on Stocktwits on Jun 21

    Sent out "STATE OF THE MARKET ADDRESS". My fingers hurt. I promise next one will have more pictures for those of us who are not readers!

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  24. CP - I'm going on vacation next week so I'm not doing much and I don't have any EPAM. It did start showing up on one of my screens last week with a buy pivot point of $45.99. MarketSmith gives it a pretty high rating.

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    1. Port, have not forgot about you, when I'm trough my ordeal or definitely before I leave Houston we can get together.

      Ever heard of Killen's Barbecue and is it as good as some say?

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    2. HEY, we've been talking about that one at work for the last 2 weeks. They are closed on Monday's and I'm told you have to get there early to beat the lines. Let's go for it!!! That's actually in Pearland, so from where you are, about 25-30 min. FM 518 is a bitch due to all the traffic lights.

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    3. OK, Killen's or Pappasito's at some point in the future.

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  25. HERO - I don't understand how anything offshore can compete with onshore production other than there isn't enough onshore infrastructure to deal with all the supply. Although, two big down days and they are making money? This seems interesting here and a little more interesting if it drops a little more tomorrow. I sent Mark the comments I had from Friday. He can forward them on.

    LNG - my value coworker who likes to research stocks the way you guys do wants to short this one. He's going out for the longest dated puts he can buy, I think around the 50 strike. But he's only going to pick up about $5-7k worth. He said he feels real good about putting on this position which actually makes him nervous. I told him the chart is bullish. Peeps can thank mother Russia for giving this one a boost over the last two weeks.

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  26. Hey guys I got the email from Jesse I'll fwd to mark because I'm not quite sure of who's who.

    I ended up taking a sizable position in tza today and left for a mid day movie with my wife (it's my birthday today so figured I was entitled to a half day). I'm sure I'll get crushed by the open

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  27. 2nd- Please email me your current email address.

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  28. Just saw this:

    "Today, SunPower Corp. (NASDAQ: SPWR) announced a new collaboration with its longtime partner KB Home (NYSE: KBH) to install innovative energy storage solutions at certain KB Home locations in California as part of a pilot program. SunPower currently offers its high-efficiency solar power systems to purchasers of new homes in more than 150 KB Home communities; this new pilot program expands the partnership and demonstrates this new technology's ability to store solar power generated during the day for use during power outages."

    Kind of what I was thinking the market is heading toward. Eventually it will be standard to include solar panels.

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    1. I agree completely. Lot's of CA cities are now mandating EV wiring in garages for new construction.

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  29. Leon Cooperman made a big buy in NAO yesterday - could be causing the excitement in the offshore stocks.

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    1. Why wouldn't he have been in the IPO?

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    2. I think it was part of the equity issue. I think it was just his SEC filing that came out yesterday.

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  30. Interesting stat for you bearishly inclined - S&P 500 has been up 11 of the last 12 years. Only 2008 would have made money (on a full year basis).

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  31. VXX..selling right out the gate.

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  32. 2nd- Is that NFLX series you liked "The Killing"?

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  33. Went on a walk this morning and I set a stop on TZA at $14.15 that for whatever reason didn't get filled. Not I'm going to do my best to get out of this thing alive.

    My gold bug status lasted for all of 1 day. Sold HMY at $3.03.

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  34. Boy if those home sales figures are sustainable then your BBBY might just work, BB. Wow that was a lot of B's.

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  35. I sold the TZA for a nice 2.4% hit. $13.97 avg.

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  36. HERO is a no go according to MOG. GS has a Sell with a 3.60 pt.

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  37. From MOG.... HERO is a well known drilling company, particularly in jack-up market as you note. Mostly older rigs, but a strong player in GOM. Their newer rigs are going intl., not sure of their contract situation but
    a reasonably reputable company in industry, niche player. Bigger margins in deepwater rigs, so the big players have moved out of some of the jackup markets. Will send a copy of GS sell report.

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  38. TWM out, chart breaking to new lows not for me, good luck Mark.

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    1. We bottom ticked it bro. Should have just sold to Mark to avoid the commissions.

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    2. It is also what I get for not waiting for a break of the trendline and anticipating price change.

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    3. Yeah it's never perfect though. Most breaks fade initially so that would have been just as difficult.

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    4. I've found with TZA whenever I have the urge to buy, I just need to wait a day.

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    5. Or a week. Or a month. Really you can wait as long as you want!

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  39. I picked up a little LEJU today at $10.1. Got this one from that Fly blogger guy. They're basically the Zillow of China. Valuation is quite reasonable. Trades at around 14X earnings for 2014. Revenue grew about 90% last year. They have a partnership with Zillow as well, which kind of makes it legit in my mind. If you look at the valuations of companies like BITA, YY, and VIPS, all of which are in the internet space in China with huge growth rates, most of them are trading at 3X the valuations.

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  40. Looking to re-enter BALT. Coming down hard today.

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  41. SNE ripped right back up. Go figure. I actually re-entered it today, much smaller position though, at $16.8 and $16.88.

    I'm still kicking myself for not buying AMBA when it was at $25. I knew that was going to run into the GoPro IPO

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  42. NWLI - Going to $309 soon IMO, don't miss the boat!
    BXE - Placed a stink bid @ $8.20 just in case someone dumps, and so I don't feel like I'm chasing, LOL!

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  43. Long BALT at $6.299. Didn't get filled on much.

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  44. TOF, you're the furniture guy and understand that market best. To me, BBBY seems like a good play on the housing resurgence and fairly valued - I think cheaper than the PIR you like - no dividend, but a good buyback.

    To me, BBBY is not supercompelling, because it is hard to know how retail shakes out, but seems like it should be good for at least a 20% bounce after being down 30% YTD and very little business risk due to its strong balance sheet. I'll just watch for now.

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  45. Wild day man. I got back into TZA at $14.18. I sold my SNE, BALT, and LEJU at small gains. Kind of hard to ignore the turnaround after a huge pop this morning.

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  46. TZA - Cheese and crackers, drinks on Mark after hours!

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  47. Sold my TZA at $14.32.

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  48. Sold TZA 14.31 from Panda Express in Windsor.

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    1. Nice. no GMO?

      I bought back in at $14.4. Was playing the potential breakdown again. Probably will get stopped out.

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    2. Panda serves GMO free foods right?

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    3. Oh, I have no idea. I just like it. Happy Bday brother!

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  49. SPY is flitting with breaking S2 for the first time in like 70 years.

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  50. Sold out of all of TZA at $14.53

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    1. Cut all of my losses by 60%. I checked and I'm actually up quite a bit on TZA this year which is crazy. The emotional toll is pretty high with this sucker though.

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    2. IWC (microcaps) and TNA are the only indexes I follow which are down YTD, so you picked the right area to play short.

      They were very overvalued at the start of the year like we talked about, so makes sense they should be down.

      Good trading though as they are both down probably less than 1%!

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    3. It's fairly easy to identify a time to short it but the hardest part is executing. I probably should be playing smaller. I think my gains would be double what they are.

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    4. Especially when we are in a bull market like we are. Would be tough to hold any shorts overnight.

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    5. I just checked and TZA accounts for 2/3 of my net realized gains this year. That's kind of sad.

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  51. VXX off around 29.60.
    Opening PBR @ 14.92 (small).

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    1. I like that PBR. Might follow you.

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    2. Seems like energy stocks are pulling back hard today. Large cap SU down 3.4% on no news, but it's had such a good run and was due for some profit taking. Not sure if this is the end of the pullback, but sure the bull in energy continues.

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  52. My guess is this is profit taking, not mid east stuff. Otherwise I'd have to imagine oil would be higher.

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  53. VXX now 30+> could have had a V8!

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  54. I bought back into LEJU into the close today

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  55. Some pretty big hits on my watch list today. NM down 5.6%, BALT down 7.5%, NBG down 2.6%, AA down 2%, SUNE down 3.7%, TSL down 5.3%, HIMX down 4%.

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  56. XME looks really good. I was looking through the components of this...FCX SLCA are two that come to mind but so does STLD. Interesting comments from them on their last conf call:

    10:28 AM EDT, 06/17/2014 (MT Newswires) -- Steel Dynamics (STLD) shares were up more than 2% in recent trade as the top end of the company's Q2 guidance range came in line with estimates, and it struck an upbeat tone about demand going forward.
    STLD is trading in the upper half of the 52-week range between $13.85 and $19.74.
    The steel producer and metal recycler said it expects to report earnings between $0.28 and $0.32 per diluted share in Q2 compared to the $0.32 average estimate from analysts polled by Capital IQ.
    "Both shipments and metal spreads are expected to improve across the steel operating platform, despite significantly increased import activity," the company said in a statement. "The first quarter winter weather-induced slowdown in the domestic market has subsided. Demand from key steel-consuming end markets is expected to continue to trend favorably, more notably in automotive, manufacturing and construction."
    It also said that increased demand for its structural steel and fabricated steel joist and decking products suggests the non-residential construction market is continuing a positive trend."

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  57. Assuming we haven't hit some major top in the markets, I think there is the chance we see a very sharp drop in some of these momentum names over a 2 to 5 day period that will present really good entry points. I'm making my list. They include YELP PCRX SPWR. I'm looking for sub 30 RSI_EMA readings.

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    1. I'm thinking if we get a 5% drop in the market it could spread a TON of panic and really provide an amazing entry.

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    2. But I think it would have to be a quick entry and you have to plan for it ahead of time so as to not get shaken out.

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    3. Oil is spiking so perhaps there is something going on in the middle east. Either way, I hope this presents us with that opportunity to make a really good trade yet again in the momentum / high growth companies.

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  58. Wont happen as I agree with this.

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  59. At least we might get a little action.

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  60. I suspect it stays like this all summer. Could be we are transitioning to a buy and hold type market, especially that now no-one believes in buy and hold.

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  61. So no 5% pullbacks? That would be wild

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  62. NSPH- 22% for a Diarrhea test. Pretty impressive right out of the shoot.

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  63. I had my first Croatian lager tonight. Pretty freaking good.

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  64. I read Jesse's latest. He basically said there IS hope for me.

    "This is why people with very rational minds and/or high IQ’s tend to dramatically
    underperform in the market."

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  65. And you thought silver was on it's way up!

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  66. TBT seems to be destined for breaking out of it's channel, we should know soon.

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  67. Almost as good as Ethiopian rice dish?

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  68. Re the markets, if I look at a monthly chart from the late 1990's, it looks like we went from January, 1995 through July, 1998 (3.5 years) with only two or three 5% corrections and none lasted more than a month.

    I think it makes sense that we are in a similar environment now with the economy getting better, things just chugging along not too quickly, and people saying things are too quiet and looking for corrections. But on the other side, many people looking to buy dips, which should help contain them.

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    1. "people saying things are too quiet" They are? Never short a boring market.

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  69. Hulbert trying to call the top tick in the market to get more subscribers if he is right. If he is wrong, no worries. He can try again in a few months and forget about this call:

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/has-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-bull-market-begun-2014-06-25

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  70. Am I the only one surprised we're not down more?



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    1. I'm not. I think we back and fill then drop. I don't think it lasts very long though.

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  71. Man, even twitter/twitz is dead. Summer sucks.

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    1. What's the thinking on this one? Goes back to old highs?

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    2. Just taking advantage of pricing confusion.

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    3. that thing is dirt cheap. trades at like 8X FCF and EPS. I'm guessing it's a cyclical then? If so is it at peak earnings?

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  73. Bought back into IT services firm CGI Group (GIB, GIB.a in Canada). Got it at C$36.14, so an improvement of my sale $37.44

    It's should be a 20% annual grower trading at around 10 times next year's earnings. So, if earnings can grow at 20% a year, then they'll be around $7.00 in 3 or 4 years. Put a 20 p/e on it to give a PEG of 1 and the stock could quadruple.

    It's struggling now as Obamacare still hurting its reputation, but business is doing well, especially in Europe, so hopefully I can just put it away for a few years make a great profit.

    Was torn between this and Indian Company INFY as they are also positioned for growth as India gets more business friendly, but decided to take the less political risk one (Canada), especially since the potential upside is still so high.

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    1. AHP keeps drifting higher. Looks like I might not get back in.

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  74. Mark,

    it's just a chug-along market. Not too exciting, but going in the right direction.

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  75. BB - You might want to look at the 96-98 pullbacks again. I believe there were several 5 to 15% pullbacks. I know that a lot of traders I follow were extremely cocky just a couple of days ago. Lots of stocks I like had RSI_EMA's of 85 or higher which is very high. I wouldn't be surprised to see a sharp week or two pullback out of nowhere.

    Hey - have any of you guys looked at NILE? They don't have a ton of growth but they're raking in cash flow and they're the no 1 online retailer of jewelry. They've bought back about 30% of shares outstanding since 2005. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone take them out. If not they're pretty cheap.

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  76. Bought NILE at $28.11 avg. It's impossible to buy that thing without it running. Annoying.

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  77. Looking to re-enter TZA at $14.4 if it gets there.

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    1. If I'm around I'll take 14.22.

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    2. That would be nice. I'm thinking a re-test of the $14.4 area only because it had difficulty breaking out above that for a few days.

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  78. BXE - Still hoping to see $8.20, my stink bid. Plan to pick a 1/2 position there and load the 2nd half if it does fall lower. This time I do plan on adding even if it doesn't fall below my initial entry.

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    1. Looks to be retesting its low from earlier this month. Wouldn't be a bad place to make a first buy.

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  79. Have you guys been watching GLOG and GLOP? Plays on exporting gas.

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  80. TVIX - Making a beeline for the reverse split.

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  81. This document identifies corrections, http://www.yardeni.com/pub/sp500corrbear.pdf

    There are many times where we went several years without a correction (which may be higher than 5%, but they do include 7% ones). We are in one now, so I guess we are due, but slow and steady uptrends like we are in now are pretty common. In bull markets like now especially.

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    1. I agree they're common. Those charts don't include anything less than 8% pullbacks. There are plenty of those. Thats what I think happens to eviscerate some of the trader euphoria.

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  82. Starting TZA $14.45

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    1. Am adding on moves lower to $14.2

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    2. I added most of mine at $14.39 to $14.44. Leaving another 1/4 in case they rip it once more.

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  83. Interesting stuff on global allocations by fund managers. Seems like long EM's and short bonds are the best contrarian bets.

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    1. sorry:
      http://fat-pitch.blogspot.com/2014/06/fund-managers-current-asset-allocation.html

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  84. Very interested in seeing how BBBY trades after earnings. My suspicion is higher.

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  85. Opening small positions in the following bull funds at the close:

    (a) RYTNX (Rydex 2x S&P500)
    (b) RYWVX (Rydex 2x Emerging Markets)
    (c) RYPMX (Rydex Precious Metals)

    I just sense an impulse bull wave around the corner.

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    1. Damn I keep forgetting to look into PBR more. I saw they got a contract from the government for some offshore work can't remember what it was. I think that's what kept me out of it...too tied into the government. Then again, so is SBS and I avoided it at 15% lower.

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    2. Morningstar has it as a 4-star and says it is cheap:

      "We are maintaining our fair value estimate of $21 after updating our forecasts based on the latest quarterly results and strategic plan. Our fair value estimate implies an EV/EBITDA multiple of 7.7 times our 2014 EBITDA forecast of $30 billion. Though expensive based on its forward multiple, Petrobras trades at a steep discount to our DCF-derived fair value estimate. While fraught with risks, most notably a dilutive equity issuance, Petrobras shares are compelling below our Consider Buying price, as improving upstream operations in 2014 and the eventual waning of downstream losses mean the worst is likely over."

      But they really don't like the government involvement.

      "On Tuesday, the Brazilian government authorized Petrobras to develop any additional resources discovered in the transfer of rights area above the originally planned 5 billion barrels. The development of another potential 15.2 billion barrels will be completed through production sharing contracts. Petrobras will be required to pay a BRL 2 billion ($900 million) signature bonus this year followed by another BRL 13 billion ($5.75 billion) over the next four years. The additional payments, with no associated production since startup will probably not occur before 2020, will further tax the balance sheet and delay management's goal of reducing leverage metrics to internal targets. However, we still see the risk of another equity issuance as low. The payment of $43 billion for the original 5 billion-barrel transfer of rights prompted the need for the last equity issuance in 2010. This time, management will try to use targeted asset sales of $5 billion-$11 billion over the next four years to fund the payments to the government.

      This decision is another example of the government placing its interest over those of Petrobras' minority shareholders. While the new agreements will add resources that should lead to eventual production growth, the timing is bad. Petrobras is already struggling with high debt levels as it tries to meet an aggressive investment plan that includes uneconomical investments in refining assets. Shareholders would probably be better served in the near term with improved capital discipline. The new agreements are unlikely to have any impact on our fair value estimate or moat rating, however, so we still see Petrobras' shares as undervalued, given the upcoming production growth and the eventual reduction in downstream losses. Investors should know, though, that their interests take a backseat to the government's, thus our Poor Stewardship Rating."

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  87. My old boss apparently bought like 25k shares of PCRX after I bought it and was unloading them all day today. Wouldn't be surprised to see it pop back up tomorrow.

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  88. Which one of you guys was selling TZA after hours? I saw your 100,000 share ask out there.

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  89. BBBY misses on earnings and next quarter guidance.

    This is getting really interesting now. Reminds me a lot of Best Buy and HP and how the piling on got excessive and both were triples off their bottoms.

    BBBY still very profitable, well run and a good balance sheet. Housing should be a tailwind.

    Maybe we see it in the $40's, given Q1 of $0.93 and Q2 outlook of $1.12 average, so $2.15 for 6 months. Discouraged buyers could push to down to a 10 p/e (I'd have to check how seasonal their business is to know how much to pro-rate).

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    1. Yeah I think we see at least low 50's. I'll be looking around there but really I'll just be looking for it to establish some kind of base.

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    2. Tough to know when a stock like this done going down for sure. Will get some false bounces along the way that people will chase, but probably wrong.

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  90. JONE still trucking along, up over 4% today to $19.42. This is another energy stock that the reminiscenses guy likes and he works in the energy and is very knowledgeable with a great portfolio return.

    Just saying this as he is liking BXE here and I know CP is trying to buy.

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    1. Yeah, looks like I'm going to be forced to pay up, too!

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  91. My next job:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-drivers-salary-90000-2014-5

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    1. 'According to Uber, the median wage for an UberX driver working at least 40 hours a week in New York City is $90,766 a year and $74,191 a year in San Francisco, The Washington Post reports. UberX is its lower-cost service, where drivers use their own vehicles, similar to Lyft’s service.

      'For contrast, estimates place the average cab driver's salary at around $30,000 a year. That's nearly triple the income. New York City Uber drivers even make more than the average tech worker across the U.S., who pull in $87,811 a year.'

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    2. I wonder if this subject is pressuring TAXI ?

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    3. Cabdrivers are signing up in droves. The Uber sign up screen lists three categories. 'You are a (1) professional chauffeur, or (2) at least 21 years of age with driver's license, or (3) currently a taxi driver licensed with the city.

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  92. Henry Paulson is pushing in a big way for carbon taxation.

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    1. Did they mention anything about ecommerce hurting then or is it just weak sales?

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    2. Not sure what happened, didn't catch the full excuse.

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  94. http://www.farnamstreetblog.com/2014/06/avoiding-stupidity/

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  95. Really enjoyed this article, right on the money about tennis. I always tell young talented tennis players that all good players can hit the ball well, but what's between their ears is what makes the difference.

    About Munger, the guy is brilliant, I'm near certain in graduated top in class all through college. Where I lost respect for him was when he went on TV years after the financial crash and said, paraphrasing, the average person just needs to suck it up. This statement seems callous to me and in denial of what they did to the country and the world with all the trash products they laid on us for their financial benefit.

    Ellis is an indexer.

    Thanks for the post.

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  96. SNE - Here we go again, no doubt another good entry

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