Sunday, July 11, 2010

7/11/10 Capital Preservation/ Heard It Through The Grapevine




Remember the (unusual) positive correlation we noticed recently- both stocks and the long bond catching bids simultaneously (I recall more than one post that noted gains in TLT while the market rallied)?

Here's one author who believes the divergence resolves with a market slide:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-to-protect-stock-portfolios-now-2010-07-01?pagenumber=1

Let's begin with the assumption that the market looks ahead 6-8 months. If we look at the 400 point rally in the DJIA, it would appear to be a turnaround signal in the midst of prevailing (media) negativity.

On the other hand, prevailing wisdom attributes greater predictive power to the bond market, which is at least twice the size (in dollar value) of the stock market.

So what does the bond market 'see' 6-8 months down the road? The stock market is a just a dweeb- the bond market is the grapevine.

Anecdotally, I'm a little worried. Last year everyone was [let's call it] 'reflexively' negative: news headlines + the hit to one's stock portfolio made it 'easy' to be negative. However, the 'paralysis' and denial that often accompanies shock + the usual lag time before shocks hit home + the dead cat bounce in the markets- all of that helped to keep reality at bay. This year the headlines have come home to roost for many people, including many people I know.

I have only one prediction, which is that the markets sell off sharply this year. And Mark shows up at our end-of-year dinner carrying a bottle of Nadurra.

162 comments:

  1. Mark- I also predict we see refis below 4.5%.

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  2. David- The Green Torment is an appropriately named drink for someone tormented last week by rising stock prices.

    Not sure what to make of the the absinthe- the colour and taste remind me vaguely of herbal essence shampoo ;). I had to ask the clerk at BevMo to help me locate it (in the bottom shelf of a locked cabinet beneath the bourbons- right), where I noticed brands with alcohol contents up to 138 proof.

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  3. 2nd_ave -- the taste, when drunk straight, is nothing exciting, but it's also not unpleasant. It makes, however, great cocktails...

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  4. As for the year-end market predictions, John Mauldin stated clearly this Friday that a recession won't happen in 2010, but once the new taxes come into effect on January 1, 2011, he thinks the odds of a recession will rise to more than 50%. So if the stock market is looking ahead 6-9 months, it is very possible that it is beginning to price in the 2011 recession *right now*, and the closer we get to year end the more of this recession will be priced in. So it is entirely possible for the stock prices to keep declining from here despite the economic news staying very positive for the next 6 months. That's why I have a large buy stop limit order for TWM at $20/20.20 for tomorrow.

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  5. David- Is that buy stop limit at 20 or 22?

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  6. I also borrowed a copy of Martin Weiss' 'The Ultimate Depression Survival Guide' (just happened to see it displayed at the local library). While thumbing through it, I noticed two chapters where he recommends buying ultrashort ETFs for downside protection! I couldn't believe it.

    Unless I come across some very explicit caveats, I would be concerned about the average reader in his audience.

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  7. Here's my thinking on trading the remainder of the summer:

    (a) I still expect a significant decline. If we don't get one, I'll be surprised. And if I fail to profit from a substantial rally due to my 'bias,' so be it.

    (b) While waiting for the sell-off, I will continue to target a few hundred a day/every 2 days using trades strictly limited to an intraday time frame.

    (c) If/when the sell-off materializes, I will then start looking for bargains on the long side. One of those 'bargains' is expected to be higher-yielding bonds.

    (d) I don't think we'll get a V-shaped bottom. I think we'll have plenty of time to scale into stocks/bonds.

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  8. It is a buy stop at $20 with a limit at $20.20. If TWM opens above $20.20, I think it has a good chance of dropping below $20.20 so as to still trigger my order. And if TWM opens above $20.20 and never looks back, well, then most of the market participants will be f*ed (since most of the shorts were closed last week), but I will be f*ed slightly less than average, since I still have my SPY puts. :)

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  9. 'The Ultimate Depression Survival Guide'
    Submitted by 2nd_ave (4454 comments) on Sun, 07/11/2010 - 19:43 #65617
    Came across this book at the local library and thumbed through it. Can't say I know much about the author, Martin D. Weiss, but I have serious reservations about the two chapters where he recommends buying inverse ETFs, including leveraged inverse ETFs, for downside protection (eg, SRS as a hedge against real estate declines). There are a few brief sentences under the heading 'Pitfalls,' but I didn't see any explicit warnings about the serious value erosion possible with leveraged ETFs, nor a recommendation to reserve their use for ST trading strategies.

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  10. 2nd_ave -- the sell-off may happen this summer or it may happen in a few months, after stocks make a double top around 1200 -- who knows... One thing I certainly agree with you on is not getting a V-shaped bottom and having plenty of time to scale into stocks: sharp drop, reflexive rebound, and a long drawn-out decline.

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  11. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, but I can see at least a few of Weiss' readers getting their ---es kicked literally following his recommendations. They may get lucky and do very well. On the other hand, these 5:1 reverse splits in leveraged ETFs do a good job of blurring the reality of damaged expectations.

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  12. 2nd- Sent you and David an email. Those comments from Weiss in the wrong hands (minds) could be big trouble.

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  13. David- The trading range in TWM last Friday was 21.54-22.20...so if you're able to buy Monday morning at 20, then I'll be buying with you. However, I think your buy stop limit is 22.

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  14. I should say I did try and close my C short for 4.03 AH Friday. Top of the channel is 4.06, so I wasn't going to cover at 4.04.

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  15. Mark- Well, anyone who's watched Shanghai sell off in the past year (or 2 years), and thinks he could have 'protected' himself by holding FXP..what a joke, man.

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  16. It's almost enough to spur me to pen 'The Ultimate Leveraged ETF Survival Guide.'

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  17. You are right, 2nd_ave -- my by stop is at $22, and limit at $22.20. If TWM hits $20, then I *won't* be buying it.

    This time I want to be careful and buy the market only on the way down. I made a mistake of "being sure" about the market decline in January and got impaled on the unreal rally February-April.

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  18. 2nd- Anything interesting happening in Asia? Bouncing around on this connection sucks.

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  19. Mark- After last week, I'm left with no take on anything that happens in Asia. 'Anything that happens in Asia, stays in Asia' is the new motto, until it proves otherwise.

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  20. Re: 'The Ultimate Depression Survival Guide' newSubmitted by Mackinaw (776 comments) on Sun, 07/11/2010 - 20:27 #65618 (in reply to #65617)
    2nd,

    http://tinyurl.com/3l7m6h

    I wrote, here, about the site a looong time ago. I started reading it, oh, about Sept '07, back when I knew nothing (which is only slightly less than I know now). I'd say it was one of the many contributing factors for me bailing on the markets in January '08. I don't go there anymore. They are sellers of financial services and, as such, contribute mostly to your fear and confusion. They've had some really good calls and some really bad calls (lol - i see an article, 7:30am June 30: "Gold about to break out!"; one day before the July 1 collapse) He was touting inverse ETFs as insurance long before Bear Stearns hit; I don't think he really understood the erosion factor then. They've got a huge archive going back a few years. They certainly discuss lots of frightening issues... Did I mention I don't go there anymore?

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  21. Re: 'The Ultimate Depression Survival Guide' newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (4455 comments) on Sun, 07/11/2010 - 21:12 #65620 (in reply to #65618)
    Mac- According to the copyright, the book was published in 2009. What can I say- the responsible thing to do would be for the author to publish an 'insert' that would be mailed out to all listed owners of the book (especially libraries), detailing the dangers of trading leveraged ETFs. That will never happen, of course.

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  22. PAL - Now there's a bullish looking chart...

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  23. The more I think about it, the more inclined I am to stay in cash. There is really no reason to risk portfolio damage/expose myself to trading risk trying to time a market decline. The smartest move may be to wait for the decline. Simply sidestepping a large decline puts you ahead of 99% of investors. Do we really need to try eking out a place in the top 1%?

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  24. For those of you still bullish, my question to you would be 'On what basis do you really think SPX earnings will be increasing over the next few years?' They will NOT be increasing (well, IMO). They will be flat at best, and decreasing at far faster rates than most analysts can imagine.

    Protection against a decline isn't that hard. Just move to cash. Wait out the sell-off, then buy back in. If you never make another move trading, that single strategy could ensure your financial security...

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  25. In the short term, this recent rally is a bear trap.

    On a larger scale, what's playing out is a bull trap. One that may have started last summer. When it's finished netting bulls, the markets sell off hard, and it may be a generation before they recover. Now THAT's a trap that puts dinner on the table for a long, long time.

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  26. Mark- You need to get rid of that disgusting avatar, man.

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  27. All of the above is probably a signal to go long.

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  28. Yeah...Once I get my regular connection back. Everything else take way to long.

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  29. US debt clock:

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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  30. 2nd_ave -- I think the reason to go long now would be not in the expectation of a steady increase in S&P earnings but in anticipation of the trend established over the past year still holding up, which was the trend of the stocks responding much more vigorously to government and Fed stimulus and bailouts rather than to the real economy. Jeremy Grantham made this general observation about a year ago in his quarterly newsletter (in April 2009), saying that since this time we got an unprecedented stimulus and moral hazard (in terms of bailouts) by all governments, we should expect an unprecedented rally in the stock market.

    Here are some quotes from that letter:

    "If the stock market is many times more sensitive to financial stimulus in the short term than the economy is, then we could easily get a prodigious response to the greatest monetary and fiscal stimulus by far in U.S. history. Second, if you don’t think there is a special, one-off, super colossal dose of moral
    hazard out there today, you are sadly ninformed. The moral hazard in play today is of a massively larger order than any we have ever seen. So by analogy to the normal Presidential Cycle effect,
    driven by stimulus and moral hazard, we are likely to have a remarkable stock rally, far in excess of anything justified by either long-term or short-term economic fundamentals."

    "In a rally to 1000 or so, the normal commercial bullish bias of the market will of course reassert itself, and everyone and his dog will be claiming it as the next major multi-year bull
    market. But such an event – a true lasting bull market – is most unlikely. A large rally here is far more likely to prove a last hurrah … a codicil on the great bullishness we have
    had since the early 90s or, even in some respects, since the early 80s. The rally, if it occurs, will set us up for a long, drawn-out disappointment not only in the economy, but
    also in the stock markets of the developed world."

    So while undoubtedly we will have a long drawn-out decline in the stock market at some point, nobody can say when this totally unjustified rally in the stock market will finally end. It may very well require a double top at 1200 to end, and the reason for going long now might be an anticipation of that double top or something like that...

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  31. This weekend was the first in a while where we really had nothing to do and no where to travel. I spent more time with my 3 kids than in a long time. For some reason, this song popped into my head over and over again and I loved it....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-uV72pQKI

    No matter where this all ends, they still need to be just kids.

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  32. David - I think it's entirely possible to have another rally up to 1,200 and yet still have a long term bear market. In fact, I think the odds of that are quite good. Shoot, look at how long it took the market to roll over back in 2000 and that was with valuations being so ridiculously out of whack.

    I'm fearful of playing the short side and the long side at this point so I'd rather look for value, setting ridiculously low prices on great companies, some that pay dividends and just sitting in cash and waiting. It may take a couple of years but just think of the opportunity we will get. Last year I made several times over the money I had invested, which wasn't that much and that was in only a span of 9 months. Think what a long term bull market from a deeply oversold and hated stock market will generate for the patient investor.

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  33. Having said that, I have no problem with going long or short for a trade if it is a great setup (i.e., low risk) and gives me a chance of making 3 to 5% in a short amount of time.

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  34. 2nd said, “The smartest move may be to wait for the decline. Simply sidestepping a large decline puts you ahead of 99% of investors. Do we really need to try eking out a place in the top 1%?”

    Big losses destroy wealth. Buy and hold investors were raped twice since 2000. They may never recover their portfolios in their lifetimes, sad fact and very likely.

    There is a very well known 17 year cycle that exists in the market. The great bull started in 1982. Going 17 years out takes us to 1999 and again going 17 years out takes us to 2016. All this means nothing to short term traders, but if you believe in the cycle it means a lot to long term trend followers.

    Weiss, he publishes newsletter and I think has a portfolio management arm. While his book and methods may be valuable to knowledgeable people they can be very dangerous to the novice. Similar to a blog which we all know that has an oracle speaking to the way of the riches and recommending KRY as a buy for all time. Without a sell discipline, the novice was led to slaughter. Thereby vaulting the oracle to the status of all knowing, just send me your assets and for a management fee I will lead you to the promise land of wealth.

    The point being is that these guys have a vested interest in the unschooled people to fail in the market so they can sell them their services.

    BTW, I think you guys are really too hard on Cara. He does have an ability to compartmentalize his thinking and imo totally f---ed up the community side of his blog when he basically told many us to take a hike. There are a lot of smart people their as here.

    His call right before the market crashed, was that just a call, if anyone lost money on that call he is not to blame as he did not make the buy sell decision you did unless he managed your money. In any event if you had a stop in place he should have protected you from disaster. The guy knows a lot and shares very good information. The fact of this whole game is that it is a lot easier to talk it than to walk it.

    Enough rambling.

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  35. Chinese ratings agency says screw you Moody's, S&P, and Fitch, your ratings are lagging!

    "Dagong Global Released Its Sovereign Credit Rating Reports of 50 Countries for the First Time

    Dagong has recently assigned sovereign ratings for 50 countries for the first time, the geographic locations of which are in different continents around the world. Among them ,20 countries in Europe, 17 countries in Asia, 2 in North America, 6 in South America, 3 in African and 2 in Oceania. The total GDP of these 50 countries accounted for 90% of that of the whole world, and nearly all the characteristics of typical regional credit risk are involved. It reveals the distribution of credit risks around the world as well as and their changing trend. Among the 50 countries, the local currency sovereign credit risk for such countries as Norway, Australia, Denmark, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Singapore, New Zealand were assigned "AAA" ratings; China, Canada, the Netherlands, Germany were assigned "AA +"s, the United States and Saudi Arabia "AA"s; France , the United Kingdom, Korea and Japan got "AA-"s. The countries that were assigned local currency sovereign credit rating of "A-" level include Belgium, Chile, Spain, South Africa, Malaysia, Estonia, Russia, Poland, Israel, Italy, Portugal and Brazil."

    http://www.dagongcredit.com/dagongweb/english/pr/show.php?id=66&table=web_e_zxzx

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  36. Gold, some on this board say they do not get it. Well I bet you get a chart and gold has one on the best 10 year trends around.

    http://content.screencast.com/users/Telestar3d/folders/Jing/media/b0c0a2d2-52d2-440d-b3c6-2d831bf07dae/2010-07-12_0236.png


    In terms of trend what's not to like?

    Interesting interview of Harry Schultz, funny Schultz is what we called my grandfather.

    http://www.thedailybell.com/1204/Harry-Schultz-on-the-Power-Elite-Free-Markets-the-Internet-and-Why-Gold-Is-Going-Much-Higher.html

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  37. David- The bid/ask on TWM currently 21.83/21.88, so you may get that wake-up call.

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  38. FWIW - Here's a post from Vad re. summer trading rules from 2008...

    For day traders out there, my trading rules for August.

    1. Play normal break patterns during first two hours.

    2. Decrease your activity greatly after that - fakeouts rule in low volume trading. Feel free to quit for the day if you had a nice morning; if you want to stay, be an observer mostly and jump only on extraordinary opportunities or "obvious" scalps. Keep your expectations low as follow-through tends to be pathetic.

    3. Play reversals rather than breaks after morning rush is over.

    4. Even on strongly trending stocks, look for pullback entries rather than breakouts (see today's ELN for an illustration - most pullbacks worked nicely, most breakouts did not)
    5. If you think of taking some time off, this is the best month for doing so (I intend to do just that next week)

    6. Nice suntan beats losing trade every time.
    As unusual as this summer is, I think most of these rules will hold true.

    Posted by: Vadym Graifer at August 4, 2008 11:28 AM

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  39. t3d- If anything, we've been relatively restrained, making only the occasional sarcastic reference to let air out of various pompous windbags.

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  40. t3d - Cramer and others also provide useful content at times provided the right 'Filter' is applied to remove the cheerleading, etc. Believe that the original BC blog was such a 'breath of fresh air' compared to cnbc, etc that we (certainly I) ignored the need for a Filter. That changed over time. The post-close reports are still quite good and remain 'unfiltered' in my view.

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  41. Kyle- Good point. Almost every 'commentator' out there is quite knowledgable- why else would they even be given the platform? What distinguishes the few for whom we reserve the highest respect is their consistent integrity and honesty. Conveniently overlooking errors in judgment, (mistakenly) lashing out at readers, and allowing anger/frustration to spill over into tirades- well, these errors of omission/flashes of loss of control don't help...

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  42. David- It looks to me as if you'll be able to sleep in...

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  43. original BC blog

    The community indeed made it a very special place.

    integrity and honesty

    slowly began to break down

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  44. Marvin Gay...One of the great ones.

    We should have had a first black president who, like Marvin, supported drilling in the conventional sense:)...Onshore baby! Where you can make the chicks drive for beers after:)

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  45. FAZ- opened premarket @ 14.765 (two allotments), offed @ 14.95 into opening strength.

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  46. I got long PAL right at the 20 day....Yes that is a scary gap but WTF....

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  47. SNDK has been an animal this year.

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  48. I heard it through the grapevine...

    No wait...That was the bottle of Argentinian Cabernet (yes, it's good and cheapo, under 20 per bottle) that I polished off alone again last night while awaiting my true love I've become an inveterate alcoholic!

    Don't you hate it when you're bullish and everyone else is bearish? I fucking hate that!

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  49. Or, in seconds case, being bearish when everyone else is bearish, but not as bearish as they are:)

    TZA a potential winner from here even.

    PAL I may as well buy more expensive wine eh and leave the trading to 2nd, and at that, only in ETF's.

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  50. TZA @ 37.51... How many bottles of Nadurra did I leave on the table?

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  51. Well, I'm up $368 as of right now, having risked only 10k per trade for two trades. I'd call that a success based on my 'goal' of about 300/dy. So I'm calling it a day.

    Be back to watch from the sidelines after hitting the showers.

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  52. Wacky dictionary time:

    Goldman Conviction Buy List =

    Stuff the Goldman guys WOULD buy from catalogs and online while away for a 3 year bit in Danbury subsequent to conviction IF we had a justice department that actually enforced any laws or was interested in fighting crime perpetrated by rich white people, which, by sociological definition and agreement, is not considered crime.

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  53. PXP hugging S2, 5sma...Watching.

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  54. Oh...Gold broke 1200....and Oil broke 75....but the VIX is red, dollar and T's up.

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  55. "Back to sidelines after hitting the showers"

    Yep, this damn market leaves me feeling gritty too.

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  56. Melissa Frances = has a face like Joan Rivers' dog:)

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  57. 2nd...You're gonna be pissed when tZA long today turns out to be the trade of the year:)

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  58. I think it already has:)

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  59. Fuck Nadurra.....You left a week in Maui on the table:)

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  60. It's funny...When you search for Nadurra, you get only Angorra

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  61. C back in the channel and heading my way :)

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  62. Just as I expected, a dip lower today. I was thinking we might go to 1,050 then shoot higher. a long trade in anything at 1,050 should be a great low risk trade. stop out on the other side of 1,040. As Borat says, "I liiiiiiike."

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  63. I see trouble in everything I'm looking at.

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  64. TOF- 1180 has now been rejected twice.

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  65. GLD - Friday's gap is now filled, was pretty confident that would be the case... even a caveman could see that one.

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  66. yo bro I'm here....watching my FAZ and REW positions inch back towards the break even point. Still think we sell of at the close, and if so then I'm out.

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  67. BLOODSUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  68. Mark - I honestly think we're going to see a pretty significantly rally if 1,050 holds. I would rather buy long at 1,050 and get stopped out than short under 1,080. I think earnings will be a big catalyst and jobs growth of 100k+ will help to extend the rally. I wouldn't be surprised to see the rally go all the way up to 1,180 or so.

    I spoke to my friend in the tech industry whose company's customers include INTC, TXN, Samsung, and several other major tech companies and he said they have raised internal revenue estimates by 12% for 2010 in just the past month. He said they raised it by about 6% a month ago and then they had a meeting last week and raised it another 5 to 6%. He said they now expect annual revenues to be 75% higher than last year. They expect to have their employee count above pre-crisis levels by the end of this month. His company is a billion dollar company. I can't help but listen to him in making my market decisions and this tells me to be very cautious about thinking about going short.

    By the way, check out the chart in IYR:
    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

    Bounced nicely off the 200 DMA. I thought CRE was a problem. This tells me that RAS might be a great buy right here.

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  69. sorry that link was bad, just type in IYR.

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  70. shark- I want to go on record as saying the price action in TZA is ---ked, totally ---ked!

    When the market opened this morning, both DIA and SPY were trading about where they are now, and TZA was bidding lower than 37. Now it's bidding well above 38.

    Man, this goes beyond value erosion. More like total ----ing confusion. If I ever run into a Direxion VP in an elevator, I'll have to ask him WTF- he may have a hard time answering until he's able to collect his balls and stand up.

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  71. as best as I can figure, about 8 and 1/2 bottles of Nadurra. Ferget all about Hawaii brutha, that trip's off the table:)

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  72. Oh and your comments are ON THE RECORD:)

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  73. This market is like watching sheepdogs herding sheep...They all run 'em one way, then they turn 'em around and they all run the other way:)

    Pretty good for a guy who's never been to a farm:)

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  74. S&P headed to 1020? That's approximately where the lines intersect.

    CVS looking strong.

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  75. Man I hope I get another chance to load up on PAL under $3.00 or at least CADC under $3.20

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  76. sharkie, I get the feeling we're the sheep with both rear legs caught inside the herder's boot legs.

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  77. tof- I would agree that this market does not act like it wants to go down.

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  78. Are we likely to rally on AA's quarterly loss report?

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  79. On the other hand, bids for TLT remain near the day's highs...

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  80. Are we likely to rally on AA's quarterly loss report?

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  81. T's - Isn't the FED buying these?

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  82. I bought a small amount of RAS as a starter at $2.18. I think this stock could have the potential to be a huge gainer if the market should rally from here.

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  83. My buy stop limit order on TWM was triggered this morning at $22, and luckily, when I just woke up, TWM was still above $22, so I was able to set a sell stop order at $22 (so as not to let a profit turn into a loss) and exited that position flat at $22 once again. Now that TWM is below $22, I re-entered my buy stop order at $22 once again. Let's see for how long I'll be able to stay on the "right side" of this threshold. :)

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  84. OK, re-entered TWM at $22...

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  85. Looks like I successfully defended the $22 level in TWM despite a couple of fakes. :) Now, to make sure that I make some money on this trade if TWM does close below $22, I am raising my sell stop to $21.10 and will then start defending that new level. :)

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  86. David- Not bad for someone who's multitasking right now...

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  87. tof- What's the attraction with RAS?

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  88. out of TWM at $22.10, placed a buy stop at that level in case TWM starts rising through it again.

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  89. Re-entered TWM at $22.01 -- I'll make this a new level to defend.

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  90. Out of TWM at $22, placing a buy stop order at $22.05... Man, defending a certain level is hard work. Good thing that commissions at OptionsHouse are only $2.99/trade...

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  91. Now that TWM broke down significantly below $22, I am lowering my buy stop order from $22.05 to $22. Like a good soldier, I'll die in the same trench today. :)

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  92. Here we go again: back into TWM at $22. Looks like I picked the most frequently crossed "round number" to defend! Placing a stop at $22 once again...

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  93. I see my GTC order filled today, closing out FTFL @ 6.89 that I bought with TOF for 6.28. I placed a GTC order for the same shares @ 6.26.

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  94. Out of TWM at $22. To get out of the "congestion zone," I am placing a buy stop order at $22.10

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  95. C'mon, TWM -- make a move one way or the other and let me fully switch to other activities! I am not a day trader, for God's sake!

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  96. Having said that, I see that TWM broke below $22 once again, and so I have lowered my buy stop order to $22. I feel like the protagonist in "The Old Man and The Sea"...

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  97. Yesss! TWM just broke below $21.90, making a clear pattern of lower lows since its mid-morning peak. Looks like I am off the hook for now, as I doubt it will revisit $22 in the next, say, 15 min. :)

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  98. 'Attaboy, David! Don't let the market pull your chain.

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  99. "sharkie, I get the feeling we're the sheep with both rear legs caught inside the herder's boot legs."

    Actually I feel a little like the sheep in Brokeback Mountain:) ...what, you don't remember that scene?

    Or if the Old Man and the Sea, I feel a little like the whale:)

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  100. TWM is edging toward $22 once again. If it breaks that level now, then I would say the bulls for the day are exhausted, and TWM will make a real move up. Hopefully. :)

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  101. 2nd - Regarding RAS:

    Commercial Real Estate has actually been improving in recent months:

    There has been several big deals done in this space lately as well:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dividend-Capital-Total-Realty-iw-4049392371.html?x=0&.v=1

    RAS has reported positive GAAP EPS for the past 2 quarters (I know, I know, there are a lot of add ins/one time items but it's still positive versus huge losses for the past couple of years) and it is close to being profitable on a tax basis (lost $0.05 per share last quarter and look to be profitable this quarter). The company has significantly reduced SGA expenses over the past few quarters and is focusing on CRE lending only now (i.e., core competency).

    Broadly speaking, the IYR index is still above its 200 DMA and looks good technically. Add to that that RAS is a low risk trade with the 200 DMA just below its current price and it really only dipped below the 200 DMA just to bounce right back so it appears there is significant support in the stock.


    Potential Return:
    This is a really rough calculation. Pre-crisis it was earning $2.30/share. They have since tripled shs outstanding so lets say max profit potential is $2.30 x 1/3 = about $0.80. The company was also paying out dividends of $2.30 per share so again $2.30 x 1/3 = about $0.80. Assuming they can earn half of their peak earnings and pay out the same in dividends, they could be earning $0.40/share and paying out a 18% dividend over time on today's prices. In the past they have traded at 13 to 15 times earnings which would be $5.20 to $6.00/share.

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  102. A quote from Rosenberg this morning:

    "The Baltic Dry Index, for one, continues to capsize, but like the ECRI leading indicator, it is either being ignored or simply explained away as an aberration or anomaly by many a bullish pundit at the current time."

    I am curious: what do you guys think about the ECRI WLI growth index, that came in at -8.3% last week? Are you explaining it away somehow, or do you think we will have an imminent recession? My guess is that the index will be up this Friday, since stock prices and bond yields are parts of that index and both of them behaved bullishly during the past week. This might actually empower the equity bulls, which will translate into another rise in WLI growth, creating a positive feedback until the housing component deteriorates enough to outweigh the stocks & bonds component...

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  103. Attention: TWM has tested the $22 level from below and failed, dropping back down to $21.90. If it makes another assault and succeeds, it will have made a higher high, which will most likely propel it much higher. So you day traders -- stand ready to jump in if such a break occurs...

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  104. OK, the break did occur, I am in TWM once again at $22, and placed a sell stop order at that level.

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  105. This looks like an important breakout, and so I am lowering my stop to $21.97 so as to give it a little more room and make sure that I don't get faked out.

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  106. David - I agree that the ECRI info is a big negative and it's why I'm not taking too many risks yet until the markets show their true colors (i.e., move above 1,110 or below 1,040). We're in no mans land right now but my guess is we go higher again. I think most people / corporations have prepared for a pullback and any downturn over the next 6 months will be capped at 900 to 950 should we break down below 1,040. And housing starts dropping 30% or whatever they were won't really have as much of an impact going forward because they are falling from significantly depressed levels. The magnitude of the drop from 2006 highs to 2009 lows was massive in percentage terms and dollar terms and affected everyone. But a further drop from those levels in % terms doesn't equate to much of an impact.

    Think of it as a drop in your cash savings from $100k to $40k. A further drop from there to $30k isn't that big of a deal is it? Percentage wise it's big but it's not nearly as damaging as a drop from $100k to $40k. So I wouldn't worry too much about that.

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  107. OK, the congestion zone in TWM has moved up, so I am pulling up my stop to $22.

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  108. Picked up 1000 more TWM at $22.13 for a day trade.

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  109. Placed a sell stop at $22.07 for the second bunch of TWM...

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  110. Stopped out of the second bunch at $22.08...

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  111. "When you roll with the bear, you get flies and honey in your hair"...2nd_ave.

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  112. TWM is back to messing with $22 -- what the hell!

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  113. David,

    If you put up a 6 day 15 minute chart of ESLR, it looks a little like my dog Solar shitting on the carpet in profile:)

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  114. That WAS 2nd who said that, right?:):):)

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  115. Placed a buy stop at $22.08 so as to re-enter the second bunch if TWM starts moving up again...

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  116. Instead, TWM chose to break down below $22 once again and stopped me out of my first bunch at $22. THAT was unexpected -- I was sure the recent break of $22 on the way up would lead to something...

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  117. Shark, Scottrade charges more commission for trading stocks below $1, so I am forgetting about ESLR until it rises above $1 once again.

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  118. No -- it's TWM that is driving me crazy! Why can't it just make a move away from $22 in some direction???

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  119. OK, I am placing my buy stop on TWM at $22.10, away from the cursed $22 level.

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  120. TWM- After 11:00pst, TWM has made 3 lower highs and lower lows.

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  121. OK, I couldn't resist it -- back into TWM at $21.98...

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  122. Placing a stop at $21.90, so as to give it a little room...

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  123. TWM: but recently, TWM showed a strong support at $21.90...

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  124. Placing a buy stop for another 1000 shares at $22.10 -- maybe THIS time a break above this level will mean something...

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  125. How about that last hour sell-off? C'mon, let's bring it on!

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  126. The recent pattern, however, has been a rally in the last 30 minutes, but maybe today we'll have a reverse scenario?

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  127. AONE gets rejected at the 50, and the punishment is swift and severe.

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  128. All right, let's go! Another 1000 shares of TWM at $22.10! Placing a sell stop for all my 2000 shares at the cursed $22 level!

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  129. Fuck! Today is not my day. Stopped out of all TWM at the cursed $22 level.

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  130. Placing a buy stop for 2000 shares at $22.10 -- I am not going to give up so easily!

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  131. Could all three indices close UNCH???

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  132. In keeping with it's tradition of habitual missing #'s, AA will post a loss today. -.03

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  133. Yeah, this market will frustrate ALL traders today. Unchanged is the name of the game. Except for the other cursed ETF, known only by its code name TZA, which trades in a pattern decipherable only after hits of Purple Haze...

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  134. Tof said "Think of it as a drop in your cash savings from $100k to $40k. A further drop from there to $30k isn't that big of a deal is it? Percentage wise it's big but it's not nearly as damaging as a drop from $100k to $40k. So I wouldn't worry too much about that."

    FWIW, this is how I would look at this.

    100 to 40 = -60% loss

    To get even requires 150% gain

    100 to 30 = -70% loss

    To get even requires 233% gain

    That's another -83% in the hole.

    So what is the moral of the numbers here?

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  135. Back into 1000 shares of TWM at $22.13 -- will hold it until tomorrow...

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  136. So for tomorrow I am placing a sell stop limit order on my 1000 shares of TWM at $21.50/$21.40, and also a buy stop limit on 1000 more shares of TWM at $22.50/$22.60.

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  137. FWIW

    The Alcoa chart is at least poised to advance if the #'s are good.

    Still in PAL.

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  138. Moved 50% of my LT account back into the SPY index fund at the close.

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  139. T3d > I'm not concerned about getting back to even (already did that!). I'm just concerned about percentage moves going forward with regards to my portfolio. The housing starts numbers are so low right now that any one month it could just as easily jump 30% as fall 30%. The long term impact of this is that we our housing inventories will ultimately be significantly below demand levels. So I'm long term bullish on home builders because of this. I posted about this a few weeks ago and how the population growth in the US will inevitably cause a supply/demand imbalance that will have to be made up and will generate significant growth for the housing industry.

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  140. T3D - Regarding Cara...I like the data he gives us so I'm thankful he shares all of that. The only thing I don't like about him is he tends to disclose positive personal performance data at times that are convenient to him (i.e., when he does well) and doesn't disclose negative data. He's currently touting his performance since early May...well, what about the rest of the year or the past few years? Also, I don't really care for him referring to himself as a Trading Wizard. Otherwise, I think he's a decent guy.

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  141. T3D - Regarding Cara

    TOF, agree 100% and it is quite deceptive and disingenuous practice.

    His book was just average.

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  142. It looks like my purchase of the SPY index fund in my LT account didn't go through in time so I will be left chasing stocks tomorrow :)

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