Thursday, July 22, 2010

7/23/10 Needle And The Damage Done



I caught you knockin'
at my cellar door
I love you, baby,
can I have some more
Ooh, ooh, the damage done.

I hit the city and
I lost my band
I watched the needle
take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done.


The mental game is what does us all in.

Today it worked like this:

(a) Opened a small position in TZA on an unexpected gap up.
(b) It moved against me.
(c) Opened a second allotment.
(d) Continued to move against me, and I briefly considered closing both positions for a minor loss. Instead of doing so, the thought that I might see a profit kept me in the game.
(e) Then it gapped down against me. I reflexively added a third allotment. That was my biggest mistake. I should have closed out immediately with the gap down.
(f) TZA then gapped down further multiple times in quick succession. I added two more allotments for what constituted a 'full' position.
(g) Then the sucker gapped down some more. WTF. Various English versions of the term 'Stunad!' crossed my mind.
(h) At that point, I got myself together. I ceased adding. In addition, I braced myself against the impulse to sell into the height of a short squeeze. Instead, I turned away from the tape and put my faith in human nature. Twenty minutes later, I glanced at the ticks and TZA had 'bounced' to 35.49. I could tell it was a 'dead cat' simply b/c I suddenly had the 'hope' it would bounce all the way back to break-even. That was the signal to sell.

Debriefing session during the drive home. I should have taken a -$300 loss immediately, which would then have allowed me to sit silently in sniper mode, waiting patiently for the opportunity to make several times that later in the day. Instead, I let 'emotions' get in the way, and ended up with a -$1600 loss (even that turned out to be only half as bad as holding till EOD).

To paraphase Todd Harrison- I don't always get it right, but I'll always be straight.

184 comments:

  1. Just once can we read a 'post-close' that mentions having gotten it wrong? Something along the lines of 'Man we got played today. Happens to the best of us.'

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  2. 2nd - There's an tsunami of good news flowing right now, starting with China. Take a look at the Shanghai index and go read chinadaily, not a good time to be short my friend (IMO)...

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  3. See, this is the problem. This is the text from TK's latest post. Who knows, he might be right, and we test back down into the low 900's. But then he'll go all in long. Even the bear of bears is looking for an entry point on the long side.

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    2010's One Meaningful Drop

    OK, blogger's guilt strikes again. I want to get this off my plate.

    I've re-examined all my Big Picture posts, and I actually haven't changed my mind one bit - - for months I've had an eye toward 925, and 925 is still where my target is at. I had drifted into "875" for some reason, but that's too low.

    The 1937-1942 analog calls for a drop within the next couple of months somewhere between the two highlighted cyan areas (ranging from about 875 to 1010). Based on a number of measurements I've done, around 925 to 930 makes the most sense. I've tinted the general target zone.



    As proof this is not just Wishful Bearish Thinking, my view is that this will be pretty much all the fun the bears can count on for many months to come. Indeed, if we were to enjoy such a drop, I'd pretty much go to almost-all-longs mode for a while (wouldn't that be something?)

    Anyway, Friday should be interesting. Last Friday certainly was. Good luck to us all.

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  4. Great post 2nd. Knowing myself, I would have held for a bigger loss. You remember my failed attempts back in Nov. and Jan. Maybe 15K lost. That's a lot of work to make up. On the other hand, if I held my longs from the Feb. low until today, I'd be down right now maybe 30K.

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  5. TZA in 15 minute bars, use 2nd's words.

    http://content.screencast.com/users/Telestar3d/folders/Jing/media/78899dcc-1043-4930-9e76-58c25ca7ede1/2010-07-22_2324.png

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  6. BTW, did anyone notice SSO and TNA were briefly at the same price a couple days ago?

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  7. Thanks, t3d- I guess I should be grateful I didn't open the position going into Wednesday's close.

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  8. Wait a minute- Didn't cp just say 'Good night?' Talk about somnambulation...

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  9. Somnanblaaaaa....???? I need to find a new blog ;).

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  10. 2nd_ave, speaking about your lead post -- that's EXACTLY what I did a couple of days ago with TWM, when the market unexpectedly started surging in the afternoon. I handled it exactly the way you did -- added a few times, then cursed myself for adding, then waited a little, and then sold my TWM into a dead cat bounce. After that, however, I cursed myself for violating the rule of always day trading in the direction of the daily trend, opened a position in TNA and made back all the losses I took on TWM.

    I remember that a couple of years ago you were big on "flipping the pancake" and I haven't seen you do that recently -- what happened to that mental agility?

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  11. 2nd - really good post. Believe we've talked about it here before--- it's the RATE of scale-in to these ultras that's the problem. Anything that can SLOW down that instinct to add is useful. I've had some success recently w/ starting out the week having small amounts of both BGU & BGZ. Then using RSI>50 or RSI<50 to help with providing the discipline to ONLY ADD to that ultra that's 'in line' with the market & just keeping away from the declining ultra until the RSI reverses. If that makes any sense.

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  12. TOF- Could call so far on holding RAS into earnings. I tried to understand the results, but I'll take Reuters view off -.16. That seems about in line with what little info I can find. So, I took profits @ 2.39. GL, man.

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  13. Man-oh-man...selling on that dead-cat bounce saved my ---...if I had stubbornly held overnight, my losses would have more than doubled.

    Kyle- Yes, I agree. I posted my 'emotional' lapse to point out that even after over 25 years of following the markets, I STILL need to 'vaccinate' myself against the vagaries of human nature.

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  14. So many things in life come down to 'Getting the Timing' right (esp sports - route timing in football or when to mount an attack in cycling, etc.) That desire to 'call the bottom' or 'call the reversal point' in trading is deadly. I continue to appreciate Vad's approach: IF you see this THEN [DO THIS & MAYBE YOU WON'T GET SCREWED] OTHERWISE [ DO NOTHING OR YOU WILL GET SCREWED] type of thinking...

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  15. UBS cuts V from 115-107- Remains @ buy.

    Euro bank call from GS...10 losers.

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  16. Here's how I think today will play out. All the indexes will go mildly negative and wait for the noontime stress-test results.

    When it's announced that a bunch of European banks are going down the tubes we will sell off strongly into the afternoon.

    I like this idea because at least it's my own idea.

    It is funny how, referencing Kyle's above post, funny how even the right information can be damaging if, as you said, the timing screws up your timing.

    I plan to buy long only during the late-afternoon crush, if then.

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  17. Have you all noticed how almost every single one of Colin Twiggs' headlines is a contrarian indicator? Unreal.

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  18. Here are some lines from Vad's blog (from Wed.) that are just too funny to let go...

    [14:09] {dino} he just killed the markets
    [14:09] {dino} these guys should shut the f up

    [14:09] {ese} maybe something a little more positive like...........OH MY FIRCKING GOD!!!!!!! IT"S GOING DOWN THE TUBES AND I CAN'T STOP IT......!!!!!!!!!!GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!
    [14:10] {nemo} yeah...that's positive
    [14:10] {ese} that should do it

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  19. TZA! That POS. I was looking at a bid/ask of 34.11/34.12 not more than 20 minutes ago, thinking I should pick up at least an opening allotment. With yesterday' debacle in mind, I didn't.

    Not it's bidding at 34.77...

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  20. mark - RAS earnings were better than i expected. REIT taxable income was $0.08/share, which means after they get through the loss carryforwards they will be paying dividends. i don't like that provision for losses went down but their occupancy rates on multifamily properties went up a lot and their office properties went up some so that makes sense to have lower loss provisions.

    if they keep up these numbers going forward then they will be able to pay out a 10% dividend soon because as a REIT they are required to pay out 90% of REIT taxable income by law.

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  21. I think the euro is/will crash and the dollar will rip today 'cuz of the euro banks...meaning it should be bad for us stocks.

    2nd...regarding you opening comments, the way you buy dictates the way you sell/vice versa.

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  22. I got the right freaking memo but I got it a day early:)

    The other day I told my friend "I don't ever want to hear one more fucking word about the stock market from you, especially anything you read".

    Looking long in RBY with Cheapy if it starts to go.

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  23. Watching LPX pullback. Any view on SD these days??

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  24. I thought HUN would be stronger based on ASH earnings.

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  25. Mark - RE: RAS:

    I made a mistake: tax capital loss carryforwards are only available to offset future tax capital gains, and therefore they do not affect REIT taxable operating income. So if the company reports a REIT taxable operating income for the year they are required by law to pay dividends.

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  26. Not so long ago, ASH was trading at 5....50 today.

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  27. TZA! Gotcha. Made back $600 trading three allotments:

    Open 34.54, exit 35.07
    Open 34.58 (on the way up), exit 35.12
    Open 34.65 (again, on the way up), exit 34.96 (wasn't fast enough on execution)

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  28. TOF- Would you add on the earnings?

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  29. AMZN is trading 10 bucks higher than yesterdays AH lows.

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  30. Stunad= a word with which I am lately quite familiar:)

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  31. There's something about PAL's proximity to both the 50 and the three hundread day averabes (on the daily) that has me thinking this baby want's to go up. Someday:)

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  32. actually it just crossed the 20 also. PAL needs to go to say, the three-forties and if it does tons of people will want to buy it.

    GMO is also over the 20 day and is garnering about it a look of potential hopefulness.

    I still think that the stress test results will be bad and that we will sell off.

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  33. However, if the stress test results are better than xpected we could rally like a motherjumper.

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  34. AMZN now 13 bucks higher.

    Their saying on Bloom the tests are far harder than anticipated. Who knows. Maybe I need to shoot over to CC....nah...

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  35. I guess the results are out

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  36. Looks like that's about it...until....:)

    See you guys in a few.

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  37. Mark - there's probably no rush to add based only on the action today. the earnings were solid but not spectacular. it all comes down to whether or not you think jobs are coming back because that has an immediate and direct impact on their properties. if you are like me and you think they are coming back quickly soon then i think this is a great price for the stock. i see jobs gains of 150k-200k on average for the remaining months in 2010.

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  38. TZA- off @ 34.15
    ERY- off @ 53.30

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  39. I was expecting another day of large gains but to my chagrin... Oh well, at least we've not fallen off another cliff.

    Sharkie - I don't understand what went down twingst you and your friend, did he feed you a line of BS?

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  40. placing a limit sale order on my STT shares at $40.

    still kicking myself for not holding MBLX. i had a big position in that company. they are going to be a big company in the future.

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  41. Hate to say it, but I kind of sense the mother of all short squeezes coming up...

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  42. TOF said: "i see jobs gains of 150k-200k on average for the remaining months in 2010."

    That would be fantastic and I'd love to see that event unfold! I haven't identified many indicators supporting the thesis though, could you perhaps brief over a few of yours?

    Thx,

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  43. Platinum flying here on news China's demand is gaining, now a net importer where a couple months back the word was China was a net exporter.

    India's demand for resources should continue to improve as well...

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  44. It seems that what he said made some sense actually.

    My short game has gotten frigging fantastic. I golfed earlier this week and I shot 5 over thru 15, then it got dark.

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  45. chicken - private sector payroll has actually increased by about 100k for the past several months excluding the effects of consensus, despite what the media is saying. i think this will pick up. the proportion of the drop in payrolls to the drop in GDP was significantly higher during this past recession than the norm historically so there is a big gap to be made up in jobs at some point. i don't believe those jobs are gone forever. jobs like the business markets are cyclical.

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  46. 2nd - i sense the short squeeze too, but then again i've been mentioning this too many times lately and i'm 100% long so i'm biased. earnings are better than people expected and the rest of the world is actually performing better than expected based on GDP/PMI/ISM econ reports. the last thing to come is the jobs report and i think August's report will be the start of some strong numbers.

    valuations are still very reasonable if you assuming $80 earnings and very low interest rates.

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  47. 1,100 is going down today.

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  48. screw it...sold my STT and moved all of it into RAS. if my theory about jobs growth comes true then RAS could be a $5 stock by the end of the year...I don't see STT being a $90 stock (equivalent return) and I'm willing to take that risk.

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  49. TOF - Thanks for the jobs explanation, and must you use the word down when referencing an index? Bite your tongue on that one (Okay, I'm kidding sorta). ;)

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  50. And now a little something for 2nd

    Fly Robin, Fly...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM72iWami9M&feature=related

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  51. Once again, very happy I cleared TZA off during the dead cat bounce to 34.15.

    TZA went on to hit a low of 33.34 (at least according to Fido) during the 9 am spike. One can NOT take off even to use the restroom when watching that POS. It's like chaining yourself to the prisoner you're in charge of.

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  52. And apparently that 9 am spike finally brought in some larger sellers.

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  53. are you guys reading the potential short fall on capital on these EURO banks? total capital needed is like $4 Billion. shit even our medium sized banks can each do that.

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  54. TZA gets knocked back with a right hook, but recovers quickly without losing its balance.

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  55. It continues to advance on TNA, spitting in his face.

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  56. I'm showing the TZA 33.34 low was at 12:05 when the 'good news' that only 7 out of 91 failed & the capital shortfall is 'only' 3.5B euros

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  57. This short squeeze may not be over yet. It may just be getting started.

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  58. I'm looking a 1-min intraday chart of TZA and wondering who might be able to trade that pattern. Who has the TIME to trade that kind of pattern? Who would WANT to trade that pattern?

    Maybe I should just leave that POS alone.

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  59. I see they're having a bad day down at SOH.

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  60. 2nd- Right now TZA, BGZ and probably most others are just random noise IMHO. But something isn't being digested well. They're saying Euribor rates won't update until Mon to get impact

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  61. Kyle- Right now, I would say the main difference btw 2009 and 2010 is that I've somehow managed to sidestep most countertrend swipes at the port.

    And that makes for a pretty damned good year so far.

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  62. Thw shorts already GOT the shit squeezed out of their balls yesterday. Today the path of least is down baby...

    There is, as Kyle points out, something not kosher with todays release.

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  63. shark- That may be the case. But getting squeezed out of one's balls for one day sometimes doesn't do it. David can correct me later if necessary, but I think the Russians would then toss your balls on the floor, stomp on them, roast them, and feed them to the dog.

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  64. The days of 'genteel' trading are over, my friend. We're now up against machines programmed by sadistic and psychotic engineers who STILL can't over being the geek in high school.

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  65. 2nd - Same here. I'm doing OK -- Not great, but OK. Still, every few months I have a screw-up that pisses me off. Latest one was DAG -- Despite the rsi<50 for most of this year, I continued to add (25sh here, 50 there,etc.).Took a $1300 loss on spike down to 5.90 late Jun. RIGHT BEFORE it spiked up to 7.70. Hence, my latest 'Rule'... if rsi<50 screw it -- Do NOT scale into Losers

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  66. CC has me staring at a 1-yr chart of NFLX.

    tof is right- We need to look for long candidates we can ride for 100% gains.

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  67. I've lost my connection with Fido and can't get back on. Anyone else with that problem?

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  68. Never mind- connection reestablished.

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  69. Hulbert is once again pressing his idea about the stock advisers being generally bearish, which is a wall of worry for the market to climb:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110143/a-bearish-predisposition?mod=bb-budgeting&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode=

    On the other hand, there is a limit to how much the market can rise in the face of bearish mood that senses are recession coming. We could have a short covering rally all right (such rallies happen in any fundamental backdrop), but a sustained rally to new highs is extremely unlikely given that the prospects of recession are becoming more and more certain. The latest WLI Growth Index came in at -10.5%...

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  70. Here we go, WTF time again at SOH>>>

    TZA is now bidding @ 33.20. I am mentally downing a glass of Nadurra, celebrating my prudent decision to stay away from this POS. 'Mentally,' as I still have visions of the liver shrinkage e5 was kind enough to bring to my attention.

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  71. 33.03 and heading for a 32 handle? Trading at 40 three days ago? Bloodsuckerrrrrrrrs!

    Alright, I'm glad I pulled over before hitting the cliff's edge.

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  72. 200 DMA coming today.

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  73. time to buy TNA/BGU/SSO if you want to day trade in my opinion.

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  74. 32.64...OK, I'm starting to get interested now.

    Alright! Reopened the POS at 32.41!

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  75. holy shit my PIR is starting to run!

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  76. The Consumer Leading Indicators (which I am tracing regularly after John Mauldin talked about them and pointed out that they track GDP with at least a 6-month lead time just as accurately as the ECRI leading indicators) have also turned down lately:

    http://www.consumerindexes.com/index.html

    They are currently predicting GDP at -2.9% in 6 months (unless, of course, the Fed/Gov't will step in with another stimulus).

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  77. Damn, 2nd_ave -- that was a good intuition about a short squeeze coming...

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  78. 'Holy shit?' 'WTF?' Now THIS is a market, baby. This is why we're here.

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  79. I am glad I wasn't day trading today, or otherwise I could have been drawn into adding to a losing TWM position. :)

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  80. sorry to the shorts...buts its about freaking time.

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  81. Damn, man. I reopened at 32.41 and they're already after my balls.

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  82. At what price point do they get fed to the dogs?

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  83. Dropped in on SOH to see what was what, and here's what I found:

    'Out of my last trade in TZA. It has been the poorest trading day for me in a long time. I got out of sync with the market and just couldn't recover. Thanks for all the responses. It didn't magically make the losses go away, but it has mental benefit. It's a big draw down day, but I'll be around when the patterns seem more clear.'

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  84. guys - why go short against this crap? GE raised div, earnings have been beating, econ reports out of europe better than expected, and stress tests better than expected. believe what you will but the tape tells the story.

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  85. 2nd_ave -- I think now is the time to get away from day trading dominated by computers and do swing trading based on the big picture of events unfolding. If the market closes significantly up today, I'll just add a little more to my shorts.

    However, to be on the safe side, I have just closed my 1 SPY August $116 put (my other puts are September ones), as it is getting too close to expiration. When S&P drops below 1100 or when it reaches 1150, I'll open a September or even an October put, to make sure that I have at least a few months till expiration.

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  86. Man if I had held onto my positions yesterday, I'd be down another 4 grand. That's a sobering thought. You really can't PLAY with ultras. They're hazardous substances to be handled with caution.

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  87. 'guys - why go short against this crap?'

    That's what we do, man. We're the 'untouchables,' the ones who go out there and scavenge for the crap no one else wants.

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  88. i fully understand that my last statement marked the high in the markets for a while.

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  89. 1100+ Close wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.

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  90. argh...NLS is such a great swing trade...why did i close that again at 1.65 the other day? it's pretty tiny but moves of $0.10 equate to like 5 to 7% moves.

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  91. It's mainly b/c I ----ing MADE MONEY today while watching the greatest show on earth!

    Out of TZA @ 32.64...

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  92. They may still get around to feeding them to the dogs, man.

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  93. cp- That's the problem with you bulls, man. You look down on 5%. Whereas we bears celebrate every 0.5% we can get.

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  94. Looks like nice C&H forming on CDE @ 15.50 lvl

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  95. "Pros aren't betting on a market rally"

    Seeing an article title like this makes me feel better about self-managing my capital. Probably the largest single factor in my favor is having a longer time horizon than just a couple of days, the challenge being obtaining the necessary self-discipline.

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  96. Oh, man. Now they're FEEDING THE DOGS....

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  97. DRYS now +6% 2nd, you coulda got more than your 0.5% on that one...

    Coulda-shoulda, right?

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  98. They're reporting on cnbc that links to the individual banks' holdings will be provided later so analysts over the weekend can perform their own stress tests by taking whatever hair-cuts they want to the holdings...

    http://www.c-ebs.org/

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  99. 2 months nearly to the day S&P has been below the 200DMA?

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  100. DRYS -- The July advance is nice -- The Apr-Jun decline not so much. Back to timing the entry isn't it.

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  101. SCO - Bought a little SCO just in case $WTIC has problems with 80 again.

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  102. I damn near finished off an entire roast chicken. I feel drunk...

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  103. CADC- Wow. I was trying to get in the last few days on the penny.

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  104. PXP has been a real winner. High call activity and it's kicking it's peers ass.

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  105. Kyle- Smart move with SCO. You know I follow this closely, so FWIW...often a break above a major level is just a head fake. Usually very brief. I'd let that play out then decide. GL

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  106. Instead of adding shorts at the close, I figured I would wait for S&P to drop below 1100 again or for it to reach 1150.

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  107. Mark - Yes, what you describe is what happened mid-June when $WTIC spiked to 79.70 (SCO @ 13.53) before reversing...

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  108. Do The Hustle!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFz2WkVAk38&feature=related

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  109. To that end, I just sold at $19.91 my 1000 shares of TWM. Now my portfolio is clearly net long. Will get back into TWM once S&P drops below 1100.

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  110. PXP is gunning for 23, which is R2. With all the call action and the spiking price relative to it's peers, perhaps there is some buy out talk.

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  111. Kid you not! TZA is down ----ing 20%!! from it's median price on Tuesday. -20% in three days. Russell 2000 must be the short of choice for bears this week.

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  112. Good job on PIR, TOF. I guess I'm biased against that one from personal shopping... a long time ago.

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  113. Interesting to see XCO and SD doing so poorly. Lot's of news recently for both of them.

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  114. F*#$%K...I damn near bought AMZN AH yesterday @ 100. 118 now.

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  115. I wouldn't be surprised if we give at least 1/2 of this back in the last 15 minutes. Pretty thin today.

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  116. You know what. No way. Looking at AMZN and that type of volume and price action tells me there are plenty of buyers out there. We go higher.

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  117. Believe it would be wise to wait until the little analyst beavers look these banks holdings over this weekend. Total flip of the coin as to what Monday morning brings...

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  118. I think we close at the highs. No respite for the bears, and no weekend for the bears. They either capitulate by EOD, or resign themselves to a 3 nights of sleepless stupor.

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  119. Looking at S/R, we need to hold this level if we want to go higher today.

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  120. It's not that I'm an insensitive SOB. No, I'm a sadistic SOB. That's what trading this market has turned me into.

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  121. Damn, SPY went right down to R1 and bounced like a rubber ball. I'll start to look for inbalances in 15 min.

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  122. Taking 1/3 of my PIR off at $7.20. nothing like a 12% run in a week.

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  123. make that 13%...PIR is on fire. Company still only trades at like 7 times earnings after backing out cash. i see so many examples of these. eBay is one I really really like. Paypal now makes up over 40% of the business. That is just a miniature Visa and the trend toward online payments just continues to grow. I think that will be looked back on as one of the best purchases ever. A lot of our customers use paypal to pay us...its a trust thing. eBay is trading at 12 times earnings or 9 if you back out cash.

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  124. TOF- I've asked this before, and you might have missed it, but if you want, send me a link to your web site. I'll have Patricia take a look.

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  125. This has to be a fake out, to suck(er) in a few stray bears.

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  126. Most of the financials have inbalances on the buy side. Including STT.

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  127. EBAY sounds good to me too, a real niche market there.

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  128. EBAY - There's a gap @ $26 that needs to fill...

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  129. EBAY - That chart really surprises me, what the heck happened there cyberspace blew up or something???

    It looks like a no-brainer...

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  130. Fing AMZN has a chance to go green. Unreal.

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  131. CADC - I think this one might close over $4.00 tomorrow.

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  132. Hey Mark - I'd rather not send the link to the website...I'd prefer to keep my company name private.

    Sorry bro.

    Chicken - I LOVE eBay as an investment. It's an absolute no brainer to me long term. I think you can guarantee yourself an easy double over the next few years...and it would be stress free.

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  133. TED Spread is continuing to contract. Why aren't bears talking about this?

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  134. TOF- No problem. Just trying to throw some business your way.

    Nice close :)

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  135. A little after hours relief for the bears? Not even. TZA bid 31.89...

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  136. The truth is, Patricia keeps nagging Mark to take her shopping for new furnishings but Mark's just not a furniture shopper. The only piece of furniture Mark ever bought was an used $5 wooden industrial power cable spool for his college dorm room table. ;)

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  137. Monday? Monday morning we gap up, simultaneously:

    (a) denying late bulls any reasonable entry and
    (b) mocking bears who swore over the weekend they would dump TZA ('but not THIS low!') first thing Monday

    Then we sell off.

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  138. cp- Let's not assume that Mark furnished his college dorm room exactly the way you did ;)

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  139. Damn, man. When I hit the refresh key, this is what I saw:

    mocking
    mocking
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  140. 2nd - If Mark had, he'd still have a couple of those chairs shaped like hands out in the garage stuffed up among the rafters. ;)

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  141. 2nd_ave, I like your scenario for Monday. :) I am placing a buy stop limit order at 20/20.10 for the 1000 shares of TWM I sold today. In the past, whenever I would place such an order, TWM would inevitably rise to trigger it and then collapse. Hopefully this Monday will be different...

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  142. I thought I'd tie up a few loose ends prior to heading out for the grasshopper hunt:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Yoville-Red-Hand-Chair-WORTH-30K-Very-UNIQUE-L-K-/170516157422?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b38e13ee

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  143. David- And I'll be looking to reopen TZA with a 29-handle. Seems it's not possbile to underestimate the pricing action in this sucker. A 31-handle 'occurred' to me briefly this morning when I sold the first batch at 35+. I didn't really 'believe' it.

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  144. 2nd - i think we will probably drift higher until the jobs report. if it's 150+ then i think we're heading up to the 1200 level again soon.

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  145. and if we get to the 1,200 level you best keep an eye on all of the high beta stocks that ran up so much in march/april. i think they will do quite well. i'm talking the PMIs, MTGs, MBIs, etc of the world.

    i think a bearish bet on GLD would be a good hedge to that.

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  146. So you have 60k worth of old chairs stacked in the rafters? Why don't you donate them to the grandkids to kick off their college funds- they don't need to know the current market value...

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  147. On a second thought, why risk being faked out into TWM while I am asleep on Monday? Hopefully 2nd_ave will be able to hold off the market sell-off until I wake up. :) I am canceling my buy stop order for TWM.

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  148. Better yet, I can give you a wake up call ;)

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  149. WTF- TZA bid back up to 31.78...

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  150. Sorry, those were virtual chairs in Cyberspace, I don't know what makes them worth $60k.

    Here are the ones I'm talking about:

    http://www.handshapedchairs.com/

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  151. Mark - Seriously though, just send Patricia to an Ethan Allen Store.

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  152. That's more like it, cp. Wait a minute- shipping and handling for one chair more than doubles the price? You would think a hand-shaped chair could basically 'handle' itself, no?

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  153. No no no, I think a dozen of those would look great in Mark's dining room.

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  154. He could walk over to each guest and politely ask if he/she would like a 'hand' with that?

    If any child misbehaves, he can say 'Give yourself a hand!'

    If they need an extra seat by the TV, they can say 'Hand it over.'

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  155. WTF has gotten into me today, man. I sound like I'm halfway through a reefer. Gives new meaning to 'reefer madness.'

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  156. Where did you say you left it? Over hand or under hand?

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  157. Chicken - funny that you're posting the Hand Chair. I was selling those on my website for the past 8 years. We sold them to the set of "Arrested Development" and sold one to Paul Simon's kid.

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  158. IWM made a higher low and a higher high over the past few weeks, so there is no reason for me to keep pressing TWM at this point, at least until it drops below the most recent high at around 64.

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  159. You guys crack me up...Actually we used (stole) those blue plastic milk carton holders. Made great shelves also. Stack em up and set a tv in the middle.

    Nice relaxing EOD by the pool. My 2 year old finally figured out how to dive properly. Funny as hell to watch.

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  160. Here are some coll pics from last weekends tourny.

    http://www.screencast.com/t/ZDM2ODZk

    http://www.screencast.com/t/Y2ZmNGRmZDQt

    http://www.screencast.com/t/MDJiZmRlMm

    (At least I think so )

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  161. TOF - I wonder if your chairs were identical to those in my link? They look quite durable and maybe even comfy. Too bad they don't offer a loveseat/couch or even a recliner.

    Take a load off and rest your bones in a hand!

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