Thursday, July 8, 2010

7/9/10 Song For My Father



It was the summer of '72 when I first started listening to jazz. This was one of the first albums I borrowed. Pretty accessible stuff.

Running through my head last night/today, in no particular order:

(a) In the absence of a discernible (long-term) edge, what's wrong with banking a few hundred each day on an isolated series of trades? Averaging $300/day over two hundred trading days adds up to $60,000 annually, which is the equivalent of earning 6% on $1m in Treasury bonds yielding the historical average (or 12% on $500k in junk bonds). With ten-year notes yielding less than 3%, not a bad return.

(b) Closing flat each day shelters the port from overnight risk. Both the number and magnitude of overnight gaps have jumped over the past year. Might as well play in riptides without a life vest/'capital preserver.'

(c) Giving lost opportunities more than a fleeting thought is a total waste of time. More often than not, the next opportunity is just a few beats away. I never need to look far for an example. The TZA I opened this morning at 38.20 and closed minutes later at 39.09? I noticed an afternoon print above 40 later in the day, spent a moment regretting not having held longer, then turned my attention back to work. At the end of the day, all regret dissipated with the closing print of 38.35.

(d) Trading is a game. The game runs continuously, and offers an infinite number of win/loss opportunities. Whether you enter the casino at 430a, 630a, 11a, or 2p, you haven't missed anything that won't recur time and time again.

(e) Beating yourself up for misjudging a move? Why? It happens to all of us, every day. Make a U-turn. Correct a wide swing and get back on the pavement. Take the next exit and grab a coffee.

Let's enjoy dinner, watch a film, read a book. I'm going to worry about the next trade later.

123 comments:

  1. Jazz is great stuff, so is Earth Wind and Fire.

    Speaking of which, CI - Great work on those PAL charts, thank you. Helps to fill in some of the blanks, sometimes (okay, often) I have a strong Mr. Magoo feeling about stocks. I enjoy music immensely even though I can't play a note.

    Maybe once I've mastered trading markets(aaahhhm) I'll take up the next item on my "honey-do" list of learning how to play guitar....

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  2. CP- Speaking of Magoo, I recently watched 'Kung-Fu Magoo' with the little guy (Netflix download). He loved it so much he watched it three times, and I joined him for the third viewing. It's amazing how many of our childhood shows have been recycled into films.

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  3. NANO- Damn. Down graded to preform with a PT of 10 get's you 8? Shit I wish I'd seen that.

    CP- At least we didn't have SKH :)

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  4. T3D- Thanks, I didn't see that. Also mentioned is the Davey Jones, which is the mother load. Good luck, you know I like this space.

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  5. 2nd- Your not in Oakland are you? I saw someone who looks just like you on TV carrying a sign and a hot dog :)

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  6. Yeah, I like hot dogs. But you'll never catch me carrying a sign. I'm just not a sign-carrying kind of guy.

    What was the story- the Mehserle conviction? Or should I say, the Mehserle 'acquittal?'

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  7. Yeah- Involuntary manslaughter. 2-4. With good time, he'll walk in 18m.

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  8. :)...That was when, referring to my diet, you said "We're not Rabbit's, right?"

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  9. Posting a joke posted by TK that just cracked me up.

    A hippie gets onto a bus and sits next to a nun in the front seat. The hippie looks over and asks the nun if she would have sex with him..The nun, surprised by the question, politely declines and gets off at the next stop. When the bus starts again, the bus driver says to the hippie, "If you want, I can tell you how you can get that nun to have sex with you."

    The hippie of course says that he'd love to know, so the bus driver tells him that every Tuesday evening at midnight the nun goes to the cemetery to pray to the lord. "If you went dressed in robes and some glowing powder," says the bus driver, "You could tell her you were God and command her to have sex with you."
    The hippie decides to try this out.

    That Tuesday, he goes to the cemetery and waits for the nun. Right on schedule, the nun shows up. While she's in the middle of praying, the hippie walks out from hiding, in robes and glowing with a mask of god. "I am God, I have heard your prayers and I will answer them but you must have sex with me first," he says.

    The nun agrees but asks for anal sex so she might keep her virginity. The hippie agrees to this and quickly sets about having sex with the nun.

    After the hippie finishes, he rips off his mask and shouts out, "Ha ha, I'm the hippie! "

    The nun replies by whipping off her mask and shouting, "Ha ha, I'm the bus driver!"

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  10. Things seem to be thinning out in Oakland. I guess the hot dog cart is empty.

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  11. Yup, $300 a day avg for 250 days is $75,000.

    There aren't many $75,000 a year jobs open these days.

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  12. This is what Kyle and I were talking about today...

    http://www.screencast.com/t/NzZkOTM0

    That is exactly why I don't use hard stops often. For something like that to happen to a huge volume stock like JPM....??? My take? Big Fing buy order comes in and the MM picks a thin spot to run everyone's stops and buys, buys, buys. The crazy thing is, this happened to TONS of the big volume stocks I watch ALL exactly at the same time.

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  13. Kyle- This is one of the patterns you trade right? Clean C&H with confirming volume....

    http://www.screencast.com/t/NmNiNDJiMmU

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  14. NANO - Wouldn't it be a spectacle if NANO were to revisit $6.60?

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  15. Good work cheapy, congrats. Way to throw some weight around!

    I've worked too hard just to come out flat. Maybe that's my problem, working too hard...

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  16. Mark - Wow, your attention to detail is impressive. I rarely catch phenomenon at that level but I've seen stops run plenty of times.

    Anyway, if someone were actually performing such a dirty deed they must've wanted in before something good happened. Wonder if the second part of the trade has already transpired?

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  17. Doing well. Was on vac the past week, but traded once for a good profit. My current "system" is similar, with a goal per day of $500 to $1000, but my risks are bigger, too.

    To be honest, I could make $250 per day avg and do fine, even with college costs, because we live pretty frugally, and I think that is the best way to trade if that's what you're going to do, keeping the stress level low, playing some small niche, in a low bar type environment.

    That is to say that if the system you are using can't make $250 avg per day, its time to go find a job, anyway.

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  18. Been watching "John Adams" on HBO. You guys ever see that mini series? It's excellent.

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  19. Taking the stealth approach, striking and leaving while it's quiet-

    (a) Opened TZA @ 38.17.
    (b) Sold @ 38.70.

    Gone.

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  20. Mark - Yes. That was a very nice C&H on RIG. Look at BGU (1330-1600) from yday C&H 43 lvl break. I was looking at MU at the time (8.70 @ 1500), but MU didn't follow the SPX upturn from 1520 to EOD. MU stalled out at the 8.70 lvl and the spike down to 8.66 led me to believe something was up so I took the hit.

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  21. BTW - Vad had a very nice 'leader-follower' example on his log yday (GS-FAS)

    http://tradinglog.realitytrader.com/

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  22. Landry-

    Random Thoughts:
    The market continued higher but with less vigor. So far, it only
    appears to be pulling back.

    I'm still seeing a plethora of setups in a variety of areas
    including but not limited to Health Services, Internet, Software,
    Retail, Drugs, Leisure, Telecom, Media, Manufacturing, and the
    Chemicals.

    Wait for entries though. That in and of itself can often keep you
    out of trouble.

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  23. Remember, it's just a casino...

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  24. Trade #2: TZA entry 37.925, exit 38.15...

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  25. SPX having a hard time w/ that gap down range (1072-1077) frm 29 Jun

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  26. Trade #3: TZA entry 37.96, exit 38.31...

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  27. Short C at 3.99. Playing the channel.

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  28. Trade #4: TZA entry 37.87, exit 38.22...

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  29. Trade #5- TZA entry 37.65, exit?->> let it run, man...

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  30. Very strange action in TZA. It's all over the place.

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  31. If there's a short squeeze anywhere, it must be in the small caps..

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  32. Geeze...Where have the FTWR traders gone?

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  33. TZA- both recent positions off at 37.58...

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  34. This has to be the strangest price action I've ever seen in TZA...

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  35. TZA- off at 37.42...I'll say it again- making money on the short side is HARD WORK.

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  36. And TZA waving at me as it takes the on-ramp to the freeway...

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  37. Wait, wait...it may be backing up to pick me up...

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  38. hey guys,

    just chillin' didn't find a good entry except for TGB yesterday......which I did not buy:)

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  39. TZAaaaaaa..

    Man, I picked it up at 37.21 and let her get away at 37.42?

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  40. 2nd...when you bet on the bear, you wind up losing hair:)

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  41. TGB - Picked up a bundle this morning and just sold it.

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  42. See you guys in a few. Someone keep a boot on C for me.

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  43. TZA back @ 38.03? This is like leaving the craps table at the tail end of a cold streak, grabbing a burger, and returning to find out every roll in the last 30 minutes would have paid off...Expensive burger.

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  44. TZA off @ 37.95... That was literally a 30 second trade.

    I feel much better, now ;)

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  45. ok, i just woke up and 2nd has done 8 trades already. sounds like a zig zag market to me.

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  46. You just woke up? I suppose these days it really doesn't matter.

    Load a 1-min chart of TZA and you'll see a great illustration of 'zig-zag.'

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  47. canadian investorJuly 9, 2010 at 8:51 AM

    RIM/RIMM - It is early in the day, but if the price holds here and we get good volume, my MACD/BOL signal will give a buy. My opinion only, and no proof, the institutions has sold the media enough bad news to let the price come to them. Do you remember Bill telling us that on CC. Strength on a friday is a high plus for me. Can the bulls get faked out here? Yes, that happened three times now in my analysis, so I could have a small loss here if I place a trade today.

    I find that if I get a signal today, one can buy next Monday to Wednesday to get on the train. Will the price go up from here? I don't know, but this is one of the lowest risk swing trades I could take with an expectation for higher prices. Penny stocks and those 2x/3x ETFs are fun if you play with a very small position, but when when you place big bucks on a trade the emotion is that much greater. Win or lose, this is a nice setup.

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  48. 2nd - i'm taking a break from the markets and catching up on sleep. plus, i have a day job and 2 side businesses and it's been hectic lately.

    for the markets > i'm waiting until we cross above the 200 DMA before any more long positions. honestly, i want to wait for another jobs report. if it's +100,000 then i'm going with a full position in a few small/mid cap retailers. if we break back under 1,040 then i'm waiting for a while. i haven't made much money from the short side and am better at waiting for an over sold bounce.

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  49. FD: still holding my STT, SPY, and NLS. I might cash them in today regardless of what happens as there is significant risk heading into next week in my mind and we're not really in a great spot technically. Having said that, maybe it's best to wait until 1,040 is breached before making any decision because my entry points were around 1,025.

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  50. RIMM - Okay CI, I'm rootin' for ya! Heck, maybe I'll put a few eggs in the basket...

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  51. canadian investorJuly 9, 2010 at 9:33 AM

    No CP, do your homework and then if it confirms that you should buy, then look at my work. Just don't buy it because I plan to. CP I am letting you see how I plan a trade. You're looking over my shoulder, I am not teaching you or trying to convince anyone.

    RIM/RIMM - since I am interested in this trade, I did some price/volume calculations to try and project a fair market value for the stock. I did this only on RIM.to data and these are rough calculations. I thought I would present this for general info. If this is not appropriate for the blog, let me know. I am not like BC with his 'proof of concept'. I told him off several times for doing this on his blog.

    From March 12/2010 high/sell signal - current fair value is $53.75.
    From April 15/2010 (next lower high) - $51.50
    From May 11/2010 (the last bullish area) - $53.00

    more data in this calculation the better the output.

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  52. I just read the Cara opening diatribe today...what an egomaniac (see last line):

    "The usual Bulls like Biggs are dropping like flies, i.e., “falling down ill and in large numbers, often associated with a highly contagious illness”. Yes, I have to turn to the dictionary because I cannot believe what I am seeing.

    Biggs said he sold all his US technology positions this week, but I’ll show you later why tech was not the problem this week, nor for the past three months.

    It’s been quite a year in terms of changing bull-bear sentiment. There was a bearish extreme reading in February and again in May sandwiched by a bullish extreme reading in April. Mr. Market is now suffering another case of depression and it’s up to us to determine whether the condition is terminal, controllable or about to change for the better.

    So let’s get into the usual market examination, as there was a lot happening. As you know, when Mr. Market is so moody, I’m forced to think in the very short term. That said; I am about to tell you why I think there is a better than 50% likelihood that the crash stops here, at least for now.

    So, check these charts and tell yourself whether ‘Wall Street Titan’ was right, or the Trader Wizard?"

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  53. finally got my stitches out, back trading. picking up FAZ here at 15.08

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  54. rew@23.25.....tech estimates are way too high...i'm going to hold this one for a few days....2x my normal position size

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  55. CI, RIMM is a nice set-up and I like swing.
    For me it is a little too late of an entry here, but I agree with you that momentum could easy carry here. Here is how I would look at this to try and be in earlier as a discussion and not a criticism.

    Here is a chart of RIMM with my thoughts.

    http://www.screencast.com/users/Telestar3d/folders/Jing/media/197ffb8f-c159-4578-a9f1-0b5e69e3788c

    I drew a tight trendline off the last fall of prices, IMO when price breaks this trendline we have a potential change of trend that can setup an aggressive trade. This occurred five days ago. Note this gives us an easy stop placement for keeping losses tight. This is my early radar.

    The Sto is flat and is turning.

    The MACD histogram has bottomed and is rising.

    Volumne is okay.

    When we can get in the trade this way and it begins to work all these just confirm the trade. If not stopped we are out quickly.

    For me the best way to do this is two double the size of the initial position and take off half if still going my way in 3-5 days and use a trailing stop for the balance.

    This is just my preferred way to approach the market. Of course it does not hurt that the market has had a monster rally of 1020 ish. That’s for sharing your thoughts.

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  56. Cash on Sidelines newSubmitted by teamonfuego (2119 comments) on Fri, 07/09/2010 - 13:58 #65551
    All we hear about is the record cash on the balance sheets of the S&P 500 companies. So I began saying to myself, "Well, what about the debt?" We all know its great to have a lot of cash but if you have more debt than cash then what good is it really?

    Here is a great article I came across that shows the cash and debt levels of the S&P 500:

    http://www.standardandpoors.com/products-services/articles/en/us/?assetID=1245214635566

    As you can see, the S&P 500 has about $1 Trillion in cash. However, there is about $2.7 Trillion in debt. If you compare these figures with those in 2006, you will see that while cash went up about $300 Billion, debt went up about $600 Billion.

    So the next time you hear someone say the market is cheap because it has so much cash on the sidelines, ask them: "What about the debt?"

    FD:
    I'm using this rally to clear my long positions today. I expected a rally to 1,080 or 1,090 and this is close enough. The Baltic Dry Index, leading economic indicators, and the still elevated TED Spread still suggest that we should use caution.

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  57. CI - That's fine, I'm quite satisfied with having an opportunity to watch over your shoulder. I'm eager to learn the right approach.

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  58. Selling my SPY, STT, NLS today. Closing out SPY at the close.

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  59. Looking at all of the stocks I follow, I'm surprised the S&P isn't up more. Energy lagging.

    Welcome back JB! I'm going to short more C here and that should help your FAZ :)

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  60. looking at more tech shorts, from what I hear net new lic rev will come up short for most s/w co's...thx Mark!

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  61. FAZ..If we close flat-ish here, I have 15.11 as S1, which might act as resistance now. GL.

    Off to pick up the girls.....

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  62. DCTH had a nice JBE move, but no news I can find

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  63. T3D/CI - Nice dialog.

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  64. CI, sure what's your web site address.

    The great thing about the market is there are so many different ways to approach it.

    TOF, here is very talented on fundamentals and balance sheets, technicals too. We are lucky in that respect since most individuals are techs.

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  65. good quick article from James K on Minyanville. I kinda agree with him and I'm just sitting in cash until I get a better setup to work with. It could be shorting at 1090 or going long at 1120. i'll let the markets decide for me and meanwhile I will make a list of the short/long candidates under both scenarios.

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  66. I am cheesed off. I wrote a long post and I got a message and lost it all. Okay I took a deep breath.

    T3D: Thank you for your analysis of RIMM. You were one of the bright lights I watched on the other blog.

    I think we all on this blog want to be masters/(and the equivalent term for Women) of our destiny. We learn from others not ourselves, so I thank you for sharing.

    I am surprised at the price move today. I'd prefer a smaller change. Is this a move to cash on the sidelines? I am going to wait for Monday or Tuesday. I might even put in a GTC order as a stink bid. I have one on PAL/PDL.to. I should have bought PAL yesterday. Oh, well gold/silver go up today and the stocks follow obediently. I know, I know, the market is manipulated and technical analysis does not work anymore. I am getting sick of these market myths.

    FYI: I have a different approach for entry. I buy 1 of 5 units that I want initially. Then if the stock is moving nicely I will buy 2 more units. Then as the trend develops I buy the final 3 units, to hold the total position I want.

    The hardest part for me now is not the entry, but the exit when the trade is working in my favour.

    Can I have your permission to add your comments and chart to my website?

    Now my post is showing. After I went to all this re-input.

    T3D: click on my ID to go to my website. It's just a little personal space that I decided to use.

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  67. CI said, I would buy 1 unit of the five units I want to buy initially, then add 2 units with a price move up, and then add 3 units if the trend is maintained.

    That's a good plan and something that Joe Ross writes about in his book. BTW, Ross is the guy who made famous the quote "Trade what you see not what you think." Others try to hijack it and infer its theirs.

    His book Trading by the book is very good.

    gotta jump

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  68. Mish is a real "Debbie Downer", isn't he? Pocket full of posies...

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  69. The blog has a fair amount of lag before something posts today.

    CI, I lost a few in the ether here, its best to write in word and copy and paste to avoid that lost feeling.

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  70. T3D: I picked up the 1 2 3 method when I read an article where the author interviewed Bill Williams of Profitunity Trading. Nothing new under the sun.

    Yes I will cut and paste in the future.

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  71. tof- Agreed. One's thinking has to be compartmentalized to print stuff like that when only a week earlier he got it just as spectacularly wrong. Might as well look around the table after a string of blacks and proclaim 'Did I call it or what? It's red!'

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  72. Not to be rude to everyone here in complementing T3D, I like everyone here without exception and thank 2nd for the legwork he does to make us want to be here. 2nd always has a kind word.

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  73. tof & 2nd - I saw all that 'Trader Wizard' crap this morning and thought about saying something, but then I paged down and saw BC's comment #65534. He's somewhat like Cramer...if he would just stick to the high road instead of the self-promotion it would be OK.

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  74. I love it when Bill C moves the market up for us...

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  75. TZA off @ 37.19...

    Good chance they try to set a bear trap into the close..drive it down, convince bears to add to shorts, and gap it up Monday am...

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  76. Wonder how Landry's playing it- has he been stopping out of shorts/reopening higher, or playing intraday?

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  77. SPX - Looks like it's taking some work to fill that gap from 29 Jun

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  78. Let's close the market right now while it's on the HOD...

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  79. Alteratively, they set the bear trap by closing at the highs of the day, and gap it up Monday...

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  80. Speaking of gaps, I'd like to see that 1150 gap close.

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  81. Does anyone here 'get' this market? I'm probably not alone in saying I just don't get it.

    I'm probably also not alone in refusing to hold positions overnight out of disgust over the unpredictable gaps.

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  82. I don't see a gap @ 6/29, just the 1150 gap.

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  83. 2nd - looks like the reverse is possible too: ramp it up over 1,080 to get bulls on board, then gap down?

    either way i'm going to 100% cash at the close. still waiting to sell my STT. prob just gonna do a sell at close order. let the market do the thinking for me.

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  84. When BP was at $29 last Friday, I purchased one October $31 call on it for $3.40. BP was up every single day since then and is already above $34. I think I have to take profits here, since long option positions are very risky (they usually go to 0) and the current rally in BP can be just a technical bounce. So I just sold that call option for $6.10, for a $250 profit (after commissions). What I like the most about this trade is that I have also earned 3X my money on BP puts when it was going down, so BP has been very kind to me, I should say. :)

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  85. looks like you might be right, 2nd, on the close. either way i'm sitting the next move out.

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  86. David - I wish I exhibited the same patience as you on BP. I had a pretty large June $50 put position (I think it was like $4k) which would have gone up about 8 times its value. I sold it for about a 20% gain. Yikes!

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  87. Then again who in their right mind would have held for a 8 x gain? Knowing me I would have taken a double and ran even if I had more patience.

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  88. cp - I'm looking at the 15min chart. Looks like 28 Jun closed 1075ish & there was a gap down 1071ish bar on 29 Jun. I'm looking at 10day/15min

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  89. by the way, this move in SPY looks a lot like the move back in late Feb. If the same setup occurs, then we could see a pullback to about 1,050 before a slow steady climb higher.

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  90. Guys, don't forget that the WLI Growth Index can in at -8.3% this week vs. -7.6% last week. So far, the lowest it ever got without a recession following soon after that was -6.8% in 1987. So this technical market bounce we are seeing may be a great opportunity to load up on put options. If, by some chance, we are wrong and the market keeps powering higher, the loss will be small, but if this rally fails next week and S&P drops below 1000 in a few weeks, the payoff from put options will be great.

    TWM hit my sell stop order at $22 today, and so now I only have 4 SPY puts protecting my downside. All my 3 trading accounts are amazingly green today -- it feels great to see the market making an irrational move higher AND not worry about losing money on the short side while everyone is enjoying the day. :)

    I did have such a feeling for a few days at the beginning of January, and we know what happened after that. Cheering together with the crowd usually ends up in tears. So I *WILL* load up on puts big time if S&P drops below 1050. On the other hand, as I said before, I'll sell my current puts if S&P rises above 1100, but will be ready to get back into those puts if S&P then drops below 1100. I fully understand that my strategy will result in me being faked out a few times, but that's the cost I am prepared to pay for making sure that I'll get the long-term trend right (either I'll be fully long if S&P keeps powering above 1100 or I'll be heavily short if S&P drops below 1050 and keeps going down after that).

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  91. My long bias has been confirmed.

    Making money on the short side= Like trying to get blood from a stone

    Being bearish= like being a whale who beaches himself:)

    Adios Amigos. Bueno weekend!

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  92. tof - if the forward guidance this earnings season sounds like MU's then I believe you're going to get that kind of pullback. Buckle in...

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  93. My only 'opinion' right now (fwiw) is that the action in the ultrashorts (which is principally what I've been following on the watch list), has begun to feel like a coiled spring.

    Reopening TZA @ 36.89, and can't believe it dropped this low today.

    (Pricing in TZA has been so wild today I'm not even getting the 'handles' right.)

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  94. TZA= a trap door to the basement:)

    One more thing...BONG HITS!!!!!!!!

    Time to go play golf.

    When I become afraid= when 2nd gets bullish:)

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  95. shark - You think there is any value developing a Sunday Night watchlist???

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  96. And....unfortunately my final trade of the day is a LOSING TRADE! Out of TZA @ 36.62..

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  97. topping off my REW position @ 22.99

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  98. alright well i closed out all of my long positions except NLS, which is really tiny and barely green so I don't really care about that one. i'm glad I waited until the close to let the markets dictate to me what price I should get out at.

    david - the ECRI numbers is just another reason I'm moving to the sidelines. that and I had a decent week and we're kind of in the middle of nowhere technically.

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  99. However, it was a successful day.

    (a) Made money on isolated trades.
    (b) Took losses (when I had them) quickly.
    (c) No over-the-weekend positions to spoil, well, the weekend.

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  100. Buenos noches ye feliz navidad!

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  101. Don't look now, man, but TZA is bidding after hours at 37.02? Now that's one crazy-ass ETF...

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  102. TOF -- you did make a great call last week about going long -- congratulations!

    As for BP puts, I suspect the reason I was able to hold them longer than you did is because they were a smaller fraction of my portfolio -- 0.25% originally. I have generally reduced my position sizes since the crash of 2008, and I especially distrust long options positions (which tend to expire worthless), and so I limit those positions to "toy" sizes so that they become just a game for me with reward measured in the bottles of liquor I can buy. :) Right now I am heading for BevMo to exchange my BP call gains for some absinthe. :)

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  103. canadian investorJuly 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    ? for David or TOF or anyone:

    If you looked at RIMM that closed today at $53.33 and you were going to sell puts - what strike would you select and what month (how long).

    If you were going to buy calls, what strike price would you select and what month?

    I am looking at RIMM moving up in the next 10 trading days.

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  104. Don't tell anyone, but I'm going to hang out by the pool until the bar is open tonight. I've had enough of people trying to tell me how to build :)

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  105. David said, "TOF -- you did make a great call last week about going long -- congratulations!"

    In sports we have a name for someone like that, it called a "ringer."

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  106. CI, I only sell puts when the price of the stock (minus the options premium) is in the "value" region and I am fully ready to buy the stock at that price and hold it for a long term. If your reason for entering RIMM right now is to ride a 1-2 week technical bounce, then buying a call option is a more appropriate way of doing it. Buying a 1-month option is generally a losing proposition -- I had several situations (and my friends had them as well) when the stock eventually went in the "right" direction but not right away, and our options have expired before the move started. So I made a vow to always buy options that have at least 2 months until expiration, and preferably at least 3 months. They are more expensive, but you'll also sell them at a higher price if the move in your direction occurs right away (just like I did with my October $31 BP call).

    If you like the idea of buying a RIMM call, would you hold it until expiration or would you take profits if RIMM hits a certain price? If it is the latter, then what price do you have in mind for taking profits?

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