http://tinyurl.com/6ccjxcb
Hulbert's analysis speaks for itself:
If indeed the broad market averages were soon to join the mid-cap and small-cap indices in new-high territory, it would mean that the overall stock market in two years’ time had overcome the 2007-2009 bear market.
Though that might strike you as an extraordinarily fast recovery, it actually is quite in line with historical norms. Consider, for example, the recovery time from the mother of all bear markets — the one from the 1929 stock market high to the 1932 low, in which the Dow lost some 90%. According to Wharton finance professor Jeremy Siegel, the inflation-adjusted total return index of the U.S. stock market was in late 1936 and early 1937 just as high as it was at its pre-crash peak in 1929.
That recovery, in other words, was achieved in “just” four and one-half years from the market’s mid-1932 low.
Historians often exaggerate how long the market has taken to recover from past bear markets because they focus on narrow market averages and ignore factors like dividends. The Dow, for example, didn’t battle back to its 1929 high until 1954, 25 years later — suggesting to the unsuspecting that it took more than two decades for the stock market to recover from the 1929 Crash and subsequent bear market. That’s just wrong.
What that tells me is it's only those who sold at the bottom who are taking the glass half-empty perspective.
ReplyDeleteEnough of this 'retest 667' bullshit. I can see a pullback to 1080. I have a hard time with much more than that.
ReplyDeleteEven 1080 is a -20% pullback. If you're stuck on the sidelines waiting for sub-1000, you're on the sidelines for the remainder of your lifetime, IMO.
ReplyDeleteAlright- it's been a long day for me. Thursday's another day, and I'll worry about it then.
ReplyDelete2nd - Every time I want to get bearish, I look at the MDY and IWM and realize that SPY still has a ways to go in getting back to old highs...so while its up a lot, it's also down a lot. As I'm typing this /ES has gone to flat.
ReplyDeleteBAC is going to 20 this year and 30's by 2013. I'd suggest people highly consider buying some LEAPS on the company...they're cheap.
I think I got confused with the size of Igor's CSCO position: I believe he sold 70 puts on CSCO, which would give him 7000 shares. Then, he sold 20 covered calls and held the other 5000 shares through all trials and tribulations until today. I was trying hard to convince him to start gradually taking profits a month ago, but he held steadfastly -- good job!
ReplyDeleteTired to pick up some more RAS AH but no luck.
ReplyDeleteTOF- Are you going to listen to the CC live?
Here is a twist on REIT's: DLR---Digital Realty Trust. Specializing in data centers. Check out the NYT today on how St. Louis is becoming a data place because of low electricity and real estate costs. See FinViz for DLR. A SF based company. No position.
ReplyDeleteMark > Yeah I'm gonna listen to it live. I have to get up early for work tomorrow so I might as well get up a little earlier and check out the earnings/conf call.
ReplyDeleteTOF- What time is it?
ReplyDeletenot sure man. are you going on it? we should call in together and ask them when they're gonna get back to $10 for us.
ReplyDeleteFood inflation may be a potential threat to corporate profits, grain stores are low.
ReplyDeleteTIVO - Has anyone been watching this one? Sure had a big volume spike today that looks like it was bought.
Yeah, I'll be on the call. I find out when it is.
ReplyDeleteTOF- 10am et. that's 7:00 here right?
ReplyDelete# 866-286-6010
Code 87219017.
I'm going to line up in the que for questions under "S. Holmes ESQ, B.F.D Financials."
My first question will be, 'I bought your POS Co. @ 36.50. I hope to get out even in a year. Does this align with your projections?'.
RAIT Financial Trust Earnings Conference Call (Q4 2010)
ReplyDeleteScheduled to start Thu, Feb 10, 2011, 10:00 am Eastern
Mark, I thought your investor name has "J. Holmes ESQ, B.S.D Financials"
ReplyDeleteOr I suppose that would be J.C. Holmes:
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holmes_%28pornographic_actor%29
ha. classic. you definitely should ask that Mark.
ReplyDeleteCP- Once I got married I had to change my stage name from J to S for obvious reasons ;)
ReplyDeleteDave - Thanks for correction, when I saw your earlier post about my former CSCO position I thought you missed a decimal point somewhere -)
ReplyDeleteRB - If CSCO falls below 20 I will be happy again since I will own 2000 share with the cost basis of $19.50 and $19.70. I think CSCO is oversold again on emotions and I can wait a bit for it to get back to $22. My feeling is that CSCO quarterly results expectation will be set so low that next quarter they will finally exceed it....-)
I am not sure if everyone have seen the Post-Close statement from Cara's blog:
"Not a bad idea to tighten up those trailing stops"
I might follow this advice tonight.
Igor good play. Selling puts in out of favor big caps is a great way to get a low entry price. Great trade. I don't think csco will open as low as its AH print, but 23,000,000 shares traded hands so who knows. I do think institutional traders with a growth bias are going to abandon ship though. Having a 5% stake in CSCO is going to kill your performance when you consider the overall market is up 17% since August. You got to believe they are going to look to liquidate with 4 straight CSCO huge gap downs after earnings.
ReplyDeleteSo today AH I picked up 600 shares of CSCO at the average cost basis of $20.32. In case CSCO makes an intraday spike tomorrow while I am asleep, I am placing sell limit orders for 100 shares at $20.50, $20.75, $21, and $21.25.
ReplyDeleteHey Mark - Read through the report for RAS...all in all it was a solid quarter. Issues I have are:
ReplyDelete(1) I don't think they can honestly earn more than $0.10/quarter. They earned $0.05 taxable income this quarter and provisions for losses weren't high at $2.5 Million. So where are they going to grow their business?
(2) Shares outstanding continue to rise...now at 100 Million...this will hurt earnings per share, obviously.
(3) They have about $45 Million in debt due in 1 year. They have a property up for sale valued at roughly this amount that I'm assuming they will use to offset this.
On the plus side: REIT taxable income was +$5 Million, which is the best they have had in a while. Also, book value is still at $9/share. If the CRE market is back to normal then they should have no problem selling properties at book value...if they can do this and raise money to invest in CRE then they can start earning a lot more money each quarter. I think their purchase of that Empire company this past quarter is hinting that they're doing this.
Also, assuming the current run rate of REIT taxable earnings (RTE), RAS should be able to pay a dividend of about $0.04/quarter going forward (or about 6% yield). If they increase RTE then obviously divs can increase. That's a big positive.
ReplyDeleteThe CSCO Skid Continues newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5250 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 09:16 #79469
ReplyDeleteBorrowing a phrase from Barron's. Should it continue, could be a harbinger of dark clouds for a company that professes to have much to gain from cloud computing. Reopened a small position @ 20.18 after hours yesterday, now bidding @ 19.67-> will likely cut losses on the position before EOD.
TOF- Thanks, I just finished reading it also. The lose provision stood out to me also. Otherwise seems pretty good to me, but I'm not a numbers guy. That's what I pay you for. Initial reaction is good, but it was last quarter also. I sold for a nice gain pre-market then only to watch it tank.
ReplyDeleteRAS off @ 3.10. I have to take it. That's $6k for a one day trade.
ReplyDeleteGuys - be careful getting too bearish here. IYT is making it's trend back up north...bears were pointing to that as a potential reason for why the market is going down. But it has basically consolidated its gains. Granted, I'm long the ETF so I'm biased.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I cut my losses on CSCO at $19.6. Screw that company. Same goes with INTC.
Nice sell Mark.
ReplyDeleteTOF- Thanks. I'll listen to the call and hope to get back in.
ReplyDeleteBTU and energy stocks are up while financials (particularly BAC which may not be affected by a Wikileaks after all) are down. Interesting...
ReplyDeleteRAS - Great trade Mark! I'm still looking to get in there.
ReplyDeleteRio-Tinto earnings soar, TCK took a big hit on their earnings day yesterday, but TCK was on a tear while other miners were flat this last month.
I don't know exactly what's going on today yet, Shanghai was happy last night.
While looking at S&P chart last night, I noted we haven't retested the 20DMA recently and so a shave of about 6 points wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
CSCO/INTC - I believe liquidity has it's price, the big boys play these with precision?
ReplyDeleteBot 500 CSCO @ 19.26.
ReplyDeleteI seem to recall a gap up end of last month, that might need to fill?
ReplyDeleteillini - Good morning, propeller head! ;)
ReplyDeleteMy rotor might have gone unstable this AM, forcing me into a counter trend buy on CSCO.
ReplyDeleteNSC - Another transport looking strong.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm under the impression there are more than a few unstable rotors out there this morning slinging debris around.
ReplyDeleteRe: The CSCO Skid Continues/ Stopping Out 19.27 newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5251 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 10:33 #79486 (in reply to #79469)
ReplyDeleteThat's a 5% hit on a position opened on (presumably) panic selling last night! As wpepper reminded us yesterday- try to avoid passing on the blind side.
btw- Had I not made a total withdrawal of my 'time deposit' yesterday morning? I'd be looking at a -6% hit on the total portfolio, and 'Desolation Row' would be playing in the background. Life is good, and not necessarily due to any 'discipline' on my part. What does Harrison like to say- 'Not always right, but always honest.'
RAS back in 2 accounts @ 2.95.
ReplyDeleteCREE is on the move.
ReplyDeleteGD - Finally! This defense contractor looks like it's finally topping.
ReplyDeleteTOF- What did you think of the CC? I liked what I heard, obviously.
ReplyDeleteRAS - Well, it damn-sure isn't falling!
ReplyDeleteDamn. Look at JDSU. AGAIN!!
ReplyDeleteGot to hop...
ReplyDeleteSold 1/10th of my RAS at $2.96.
ReplyDeleteSold 1/10th of my SWY calls at $1.20 that i bought at $1.1 yest
Mark - I really liked the tone on the call...just not sure the numbers quite add up for continued EPS growth. However, one thing that was very positive: they said that occupancy rates are so high on multifamily properties that they can now raise rents.
ReplyDeleteSold another 1/10th of my RAS at $2.95. These orders are being filled quickly. I suspect that there is some buying strength here
ReplyDeleteNow with 3/4 of original RAS position. My decision has less to do with the company and more to do with my personal situation. I may be making a move to buy the rest of my furniture business from my partners so I need money to do so.
ReplyDeleteSold 100 shs of IYT at $92.9 that I bought at $91.8ish..
STOCK ALERT: BUY any little F'n'n' dip. I cannot believe this market.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'd have to see a 1300 20DMA retest fail before I'd be willing to take gains off the table.
ReplyDeleteI really believe Uncle Ben is quite serious about turning the tables in favor of US employment, it's refreshing to have someone working to import jobs as opposed to concentrating on jobs export for a change.
Ron Paul sure seems like an impatient fellow, the distraction of the debate probably helps Ben to pull off his caper. I'm convinced Ronny either hasn't thought everything through to the end, or he's assisting Ben's effort accidentally on purpose.
These guys are gridlock masters, the drama is entertaining if you've got the time and means to follow it.
Completely out of my RAS at about $2.95. I suspect this will close around $3.20 today.
ReplyDeleteMan...if no damage from Wikileaks plus jobless claims of under 400k doesn't get BAC going...wtf will?
ReplyDeleteMy guess: they're holding it down and getting as many off the long train before moving it up.
Added some more BAC Aug $14 calls at 1.64.
ReplyDeleteLong NTGR at $33.73
ReplyDeleteDamn, I got screwed by CSCO once again... The only thing that is cushioning the blow is the small position size that I now habitually use for new "concepts." Right now, the hit I am taking on the 600 shares I purchased yesterday AH at $20.32 is only 0.3% of my portfolio. If history is any guide, CSCO will start trending up soon, and when it gets to $20 I'll sell covered calls against my position.
ReplyDeleteRAS off @ 3.07. Yikes :)
ReplyDeleteF*ckin RAS...why did i have to get a call from my partner this morning that she is open to selling her stake to me...i just left $7k on the table.
ReplyDeleteTOF - You have the option of marrying her. Oh wait, I guess you don't! ;)
ReplyDeleteTOF - Marrying my aunt would be creepy.
ReplyDeleteDamn...$12k on the table. House always wins.
there i go talking to myself again...that's CP, not TOF
ReplyDeleteTOF- Were both Fing wimps man. We had it nailed.
ReplyDeleteRAS - Rocket launch off Tierra Del Fuego! And to think I could'a bought back in today at the same price I sold a few days ago...
ReplyDeleteCSCO opened @ 19.03 newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5252 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 14:31 #79520
ReplyDeleteMy better half (who has a much longer time horizon than I) is scaling into CSCO. Should prices continue to drop, I'll be doing the same for the 9-year-old's account.
Okay, lesson for the week is never ever under any circumstances sell, only buy on dips.
ReplyDeleteMark - I can't believe I got this opportunity on the same day we get this breakout. Friggin A man. I got all scared that the bottom would just drop out and I would be out of a bunch of money that I needed to buy her stake...
ReplyDeleteMan, RAS is one beautiful looking stock at this point.
I cannot believe this sheeIT. RAS has a parabolic breakout and no one except David is in it! After reading post after post about this efen stock. Because I read every single post I know more about RAS then I know about members of my family. WTF. I'm disgusted.
ReplyDeleteRoBear, sorry to disappoint you, but I got stopped out flat from my position at $2.92 yesterday. I wanted to place a buy stop order at $3, but somehow got caught up in other work and didn't do it...
ReplyDeleteRB > This is the classic example of the market getting everyone offboard before making it's true move. The only reason I can honestly say I sold was because I need the money now. Otherwise, I would have held. Maybe this is a sign that I don't belong in the trading world. Investing/longer term trading maybe. Not short term.
ReplyDeleteRB - Perhaps we need a leader to organize our thoughts and actions. I'm a novice, but you're welcome to step up to the plate! ;)
ReplyDeleteIt amazes me that metals just keep moving sideways while everything else experiences such a phenomenal rally, it must be a rotation thing and I never received the memo.
ReplyDeleteI apologize about the disgusted remark. i was just trying to emphasize the irony of that pop. Everyone killed that trade, except David :). THe pop should be ignored who could of Known.
ReplyDeleteCP: Too Funny. That would be like an italian General leading D-Day.
Team: I often wonder why you distract yourself with furniture. I think you would kill it being a fulltime trader.
RB
Re: The CSCO Skid Continues/ Stopping Out 19.27 newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5253 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 16:13 #79530 (in reply to #79489)
ReplyDeletejack- I would agree with all three. I don't use hard stops, preferring mental stops instead, and you could say I rely on my sixth sense. However, when the time comes, I do not hesitate to sell.
I actually had a small gain on the 'all-in' CSCO position taken last Friday (around 21.92): I exited Wednesday at an average of 21.97. However, I don't plan on any 'all-in' positions again. And I am most definitely aware I am one fortunate son-of-a-gun.
Re: CSCO@18.91FILLED newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5254 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 16:18 #79531 (in reply to #79526)
ReplyDeleteOdds are good you'll be able to exit higher before it resumes its downward trajectory. In other words, I wouldn't hesitate to take any ST gains. JMO.
PMI - Made up for yesterday's loss, positive for the week.
ReplyDeleteVAE.V - This company apparently owns a 22% interest in one of the largest uranium deposits in the US. Or so I hear from speaking with a local resident from the area.
ReplyDeleteRe: The CSCO Skid Continues/ Stopping Out 19.27 newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5255 comments) on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 16:56 #79534 (in reply to #79533)
ReplyDeleteBTW, why this obsession with CSCO on this forum? This is consistently making lower lows and lower highs for months during a super bull market. Why should this be played long and not short? Beats me.
I'm wondering what Cody Willard is emailing his clients- oh, here we go:
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/cody/2011/02/10/cody-willard-dont-panic-over-cisco/
VAE.V - And of course Sprott is involved:
ReplyDeletehttp://finance.yahoo.com/news/Sprott-Resource-Corp-Agrees-ccn-3486996889.html?x=0&.v=1
VAE.V also listed as VAERF.PK
ReplyDeleteYep, pretty sick to my stomach. I was thinking the same thing to myself TOF...That perhaps I don't have what it takes to do this well. Time and time again I take winners off the track too soon. And it would be VERY fair to say I let losers go against me to long. However...
ReplyDeleteWe're both just acting like babies right now. And RB is right, your a damn good trader. Trust me, NO WAY you get those returns you in any early business. Do both, there's plenty of time in the day.
As for me, I'm still feeling like a fing wuss, but I'll get over it and press forward. This is a LONG game.
Gee, look at that. BEXP broke out today with out me as well. Figures.
ReplyDeleteI was in BEXP too. sold in the 28s. Then it went to 29. I felt bad about that so I bought 5 30 strike Feb calls to kill the pain at $55. I was saying to myself if it breaks out I will just hold them and get assigned the stock. It quickly broke 30. Which surprised me. So I decided to sell the calls at $119. I offered them, but options are so thin in this stock no one took them. BEXP went below 30. Options were losing value. I was worried about a gain turning to a loss, so instead of going with the origianl plan I sold out at 89. Made $24 bucks a contract. I have no idea what I was worried about. A complete moron.
ReplyDeleteRB
Mark - I agree...we're crying over spilt milk. We still made solid gains in the company. In fact, I've found that most times when I get out, I ultimately get out at great prices even if the stock goes higher later...and it frees up capital for other trades. The key is having no memory of the missed gains so that it doesn't cloud your judgment going forward.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, the issue that caused me to miss most of the gains today in RAS was not trading related but that I most likely will need this money to buy a portion of my online furniture company (which, RB, is actually growing nicely and can provide me with up to $3-4k a month in reliable income if I buy the rest of the company). I knew we didn't see a parabolic move yet in RAS and it certainly looked like it was due for one...oh well.
Anyway, Mark > we can't lose sight of the fact that we made some nice gains not only on RAS but on other stocks this year.
But I think we still have our right to bitch and moan for the next 24-48 hours. This one will hurt for a little bit. We're men and we should be allowed to show our emotions, right??? That's what my wife tells me...
ReplyDeleteBy the way, check out the massive wedge being built in BAC. Draw a trend line down from $19.86, connecting to the highs from 1/14. This line ends at $14.8. Draw a trendline up from the $10.91 low on 11/30, connecting from the lows around $13.4 on 1/25 and 1/27...this line ends at $14.14. I'm long the stock and looking to get longer...if it breaks out of that wedge to the upside, which I think it will given the stock is now above it's 50 DMA and 200 DMA so it's bullish, then it could easily get to $16-$17 in the next month or two.
ReplyDeleteAlso, check out the chart on good ole NLS. The daily, weekly, and monthly charts all look awesome. The company has some serious issues regarding its viability, but the chart says that things are turning around. They're a much smaller company than they were previously, but there is no reason why this can't be a $7-$10 stock in the next cycle upturn.
This will snap you out of it TOF...You could still be short OPEN :)!
ReplyDeleteExtra beer for both of us tonight.
Well, maybe we'll get lucky with RAS, I've got my sights set on $2.95 for tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteIt's just that since I took on some more GMO I'm having to be more cautious. I guess I get screwed twice this week, once on RAS and again on GMO, if it craters tomorrow.
So if that happens I'll probably add more GMO.
And then there's CADC to think about. With earnings tomorrow before market opens, I might be adding there soon if it sells off.
AIG - This chart looks like an event waiting to happen.
ReplyDeleteCP > GMO...they can't break that down huh?
ReplyDeleteBy the way guys...check out QPSA...this could be a BIDU type winner long run. $10 is a great entry point.
TOF- Looks more like a Facebook thingy, no?
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, I'm keeping a close eye on BAC again. Probably a smaller position than the last time. Maybe 5-6K share size.
You've mentioned the weeki issue. You seem to think that's be resolved. I haven't seen anything like that.
NANO - Still hanging out @ $18
ReplyDeleteCP- NANO's earnings looked a little shaky today.
ReplyDeleteFutes off and BAC is down a tad AH. Can't stay out of the game forever, right? :)
ReplyDeleteOK, bidding 1000 @ 14.40 with the next obvious area would be 14.10ish.
Mark - I'm not advocating NANO at this price.
ReplyDeleteMark > http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/09/us-wikileaks-bankofamerica-idUSTRE7185W620110209
ReplyDeleteWeird thing I can't get my head around is why wouldn't the stock be up big if this was the case (this news came out yesterday before close)? Either the market doesn't believe it yet (Wikileaks hasn't actually released the info) or its already baked in. I'm thinking its the former and the minute it officially gets release BAC makes its move up to 16/17.
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