Friday, July 30, 2010
7/30/10 Slow Dance on the Killing Ground
Man I am embarrassed to tell you that today I gave it all back in one ----ing trade. My 4-figure gain for the week flipped into a 3-figure loss in 4 hours and 27 minutes.
Opened TZA @ 32.94 reflexively as a short squeeze hit the tape at 642 am (pst), closed @ 32.07 as a broad market sell-off briefly materialized at 1109 am (pst). Larger than normal position. It went green almost immediately. However, greed won over common sense, as I sat back, confident that the morning sell-off would resume almost immediately. Instead, we all know what happened.
But there's good news. It was a 4-figure loss for most of the morning. Only my 'blind faith' in human nature gave me the confidence to hold the position (for 4 1/2 hours,!) until I saw a print that spelled 'breakeven' (for the week), and clicked Sell as quickly as I could. In fact, had I sold the position exactly 16 seconds earlier, I would have ended up flat.
As it is, I end the week down -191.89.
I really believed we would see at least -250 points on the DJIA today. For crying out loud, didn't TLT close near the high? Got played by the Market once again. At least I didn't hand over my wallet at the highs of the day. No, I was able to hold my own to an even draw for the week. Next round Monday.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
Honestly, my 'head' can't make up its mind- whether to
ReplyDelete(a) feel 'bad' about ending the week with a bad trade, or to
(b) feel 'good' about making a decisive (yet losing) bet on a sharp sell-off- and then pulling out of a nosedive to land safely on neutral territory.
It's all good. I did what Mary Decker should have done- rather than feel cheated out of a win by Zola Budd, I took responsibility for a losing bet and made the best of it.
ReplyDeleteBesides, if I can't handle a -$200 loss for the week, what am I doing on the field?
I'm just pissed.
The blues.
ReplyDeleteJoining Kyle on the Scotch bender.
ReplyDeletePurple Heather- Would someone who knows how please post a version of the Van Morrison song on youtube for next week's edition of Trading Topics?
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure whether I'd be up or down right now if I hadn't closed out Thur. morning. But nothing ran away from me so the decision is still mine....Well RBY kinda did, but I've never followed that sucker. Just catching a ride with Cheapy on that one.
ReplyDelete2nd - It's a very tricky tape. I let a small BGZ gain turn into a small (unrealized) loss but, like you, I'm just looking at the $SPX chart and seeing, at least the potential, for a pullback to the 50DMA (1081). BUT WTF do any of us know...
ReplyDeleteshark- Cruising downtown with your new Toyota pick-up?
ReplyDelete2nd- Who's turn is it to wait up for Sharkie?
ReplyDeleteFunny line BTW. Took me a snap to get it :)
Kyle- I for one claim not to know ---- when it comes to explaining this tape. I just can't explain it. It's like swatting a soap bubble that keeps floating.
ReplyDeleteMark- You need to catch up to Kyle and me. Then you won't need to work at it.
ReplyDeleteI can wait up for sharkie. I just sleep 8 hours and still have time to make coffee before he comes home.
ReplyDeleteWorks for me. Cheers.
ReplyDeleteMark- Ted mentioned that this morning rates hit the lowest he's seen this year. It's just a matter of time before they hit my target.
ReplyDelete4.5% right? I've got all my crap ready. It's a little more involved being self employed.
ReplyDelete2nd - There's a Swirling, a Levitation, that's going on (just like the '09 market lift) and it just keeps going & going...like the Energizer Bunny. Everything I see w/ national govt. & local govt. etc looks dysfunctional, but it doesn't seem to matter. If it's a swing trade & you hang it out there for too long (like a few hours, 1-2 days) it's going to get chopped off...
ReplyDeleteIf anyone can handle it, he can.
ReplyDeleteI like that. 'A Swirling, A Levitation.'
ReplyDeleteKinda the same thing here Kyle. Oakland just laid off 80 police officers and San Jose 30 firemen. Thing that REALLY pisses me of about it is the concessions asked of both unions to avoid any lay offs weren't that much. So much for the "brotherhood". If they get rehired, if I had voted against "them" as a "brother", I'd never be able to lok them in the eye.
ReplyDelete2nd- I think Kyle was talking about himself right now ;)
ReplyDeleteWell, I'm doing the same. 'A Curling. A Meditation.'
ReplyDeleteHoping for 'An Unfurling. No Hesitation.'
Alright. Too much curling.
How many books have been written with that muse? I'll bet Hemingway wrote entire books sitting at the table with her.
Heck, mankind has engaged in world wars under her influence.
ReplyDeleteMake that, 'has entered into world wars...'
ReplyDeleteBut let's get back to the markets.
ReplyDeleteI really believe there is an 'explanation' to the 'levitation,' and that is has nothing to do with 'manipulation.'
What in the world are you guys smoking out there on the left coast????
ReplyDeleteMark - Good illustration re officers & firemen. Every issue that comes up has some twist/turn associated with it. It should be straight-forward but the more you hear, the more nuance and in general, jacked-up everything is.
When a crowd of people are engaged in 'gaming' each other, unexpected outcomes are bound to occur.
ReplyDeleteAnd if one decides to play with leveraged ETFs, the 'unexpected outcomes' are magnified.
ReplyDeleteHence the correlation btw leveraged ETFs and ubiquitous WTFs.
ReplyDeleteAnd on Friday nights, 'beveraged WTFs.'
ReplyDeleteDamn, what AM I smoking?
Catch you guys tomorrow. BTW, I liked the Sunday evening sessions, but in this market, I'm not really sure if individual stocks have much chance of trending very far...
ReplyDeleteKyle- Funny. (Individual stocks)....I think that's going to be the ONLY way to make money over the next few months.
ReplyDeleteHow is it possible to design a derivative that returns 3x the gains/losses in an underlying index in real time, without unduly affecting the underlying indexes in unexpected ways? I think it's reasonable to think it happens.
ReplyDelete2nd- It HAS to happen.
ReplyDeleteIf there is undue demand for TZA relative to TNA, how does that affect the Russell 2000?
ReplyDeleteI think the Russell 2000 becomes hyper-vulnerable to short squeezes.
ReplyDeleteWhat I don't understand is how those funds make any money for themselves, but obviously they do. If I buy at $1 sell the same day @ $2, how do they make money? On the cash float?
ReplyDeleteFrom a purely psychological standpoint, isn't it reasonable to think that TZA holders are many times more nervous/'trigger happy' than holders of traditional shorts? Of course! Not only are they exposed 3x more, but the kind of person who plays them (mirror, mirror) is probably a trigger-happy personality to begin with ;)
ReplyDeleteTo be clear, what I mean is, if I buy 100 shares @ 1$, I get 100 shares. Where's the vig?
ReplyDeleteOne thing I'm certain of is that they take advantage of the 'situation' any way they can. That's human nature. It just happens.
ReplyDeleteTaylor Mays has a chance to be another Ronnie Lott. Crazy, I know, but from a few friends of mine he's the real deal...Kinda like Kendra ;)
ReplyDeleteOK, but other than the brokers getting their fee on fickle fingers, where's theirs?
ReplyDeleteTrust me, they'll find a way. It won't necessarily be 'obvious,' and they certainly won't be telling us about it.
ReplyDeleteCome on, man. You read Liar's Poker, right? How about 'Den of Thieves?' You think these guys are any different?
ReplyDeleteIf they find a way to skim a penny off each transaction, that's enough to fund a lavish lifestyle. But there's always more than one 'hand' in the pot. So I'm sure it's a lot more money we're talking about. Everyone involved in the process needs to be compensated.
ReplyDeleteThe thing for us is to accept it and forget about it. It really doesn't matter much. Our game is different- to a great extent, it's recognizing that there are (predictable) opportunities created whenever human nature is involved.
TZA
ReplyDelete15 million shares per day
.01*15,000,000=150,000
150,000*250 days = $37,500,000
T3D- Ok, it must be. But how does that effect us when I get a fill at my price and a sell at my price?
ReplyDeleteIE...Where does it come out of?
ReplyDeleteMark, the answer most likely is in the prospectus. Unless you have a burning desire to know how they make money off us I would not worry about it. Or happy reading as I use etf's very little. If you look at quite a few charts, etf's had some of the worst drops during the flash crash.
ReplyDeleteIt is known that very knowledge people in the field just rip a new a-hole on those who invest in commodities funds long-term that are in contango.
Never underestimate Wall Streets ability to create a product that milks us.
Since many here are hyper-traders (neither a good thing or a bad thing)your brokers are the ones who probably make out best and the market makers who are scalping that penny.
Mark, I take it that Kendra kicks predominately with her right foot. I could be wrong here. If I'm not, have her start practicing kicking with her left foot (most likely weaker)too. This will make her a much more crafty player as she ages and could be potentially worth millions in she becomes one of the really gifted world class women soccer players.
ReplyDeleteFor drill take some of the same photo shots but have her kick the ball with her left foot and compare form. IMO she should practice this now when she is young and it is much easier to learn and be consistent about practicing it. Just an observation.
If memory serves me, the goal that Spain won the World Cup with was kicked with the guys left foot. I remember thinking how impressed I was that he could kick it which such authority on that side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPEWwZ7o57I
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URLRbxJcMsw&feature=related
ReplyDeleteone more
I sure do know what its like to lose a month's winnings on 1 bad trade. I forget what day it was, maybe 2 or 3 days ago. I thought it would take a month to make it back, but got lucky and made it back in a day. What if I hadn't? Why did I buy it? Why did I give up and sell? Had I held it till tonight, I'd have been up $75k on it instead of losing $10k.
ReplyDeleteI guess I should look at the chart for any clues I missed that would have told me to keep waiting instead of buying...
FWIW...SIAM (Society of Industrial & Applied Mathematics) started a Journal on Financial Mathematics this year. These papers are mainly theoretical; however, a recent paper addressed leveraged ETFs...
ReplyDeletehttp://siamdl.aip.org/sifin
It's the next to last pdf (pp. 586-603) in this list:
http://siamdl.aip.org/dbt/dbt.jsp?KEY=SJFMBJ&Volume=1&Issue=1
T3D- VERY good observation. I like the idea about the drill. And your correct about using your left. Chase, our nephew, who got the full ride @ Oregon State, did so because he play's left striker. Friggin rocket with his left foot.
ReplyDeleteNot interested enough in the ETF thing to actually read the prospectus. Just curious, and I'm well aware about the inherent problems with then as a LT hold. Thanks!
PXP - Wonder if it'll retest the lower trendline once again?
ReplyDeleteI just don't know where this market's going from here but longer term I'm still positive. People aren't about to live in caves but they will be much more frugal going forward. So the question in my mind is how do we capitalize on that?
PXP- Sure seems like there's an underlying bid @ 20ish.
ReplyDeletePXP put/call ratio was .04 on Friday.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.marketintellisearch.com/articles/1034896.html
CB bob,
ReplyDeletehttp://siamdl.aip.org/dbt/dbt.jsp?KEY=SJFMBJ&Volume=1&Issue=1
looks like a natural to ease some of your laments. i can envision our cb forecasts rolling off your screens in re: xxx
Minimizing the Expected Market Time to Reach a Certain Wealth Level
Convergence by Viscosity Methods in Multiscale Financial Models with Stochastic Volatility
Short-Maturity Asymptotics for a Fast Mean-Reverting Heston Stochastic Volatility Model.
u da man
e5
CB/e5- I took a shot at the article. WAY over my pin head. If you guys understand them, congrats!
ReplyDeletehey bob,
ReplyDeletekyle posted the citations; wikipedia does a good job explaining the algos and kyle, probably will help you plug in stuff. try wiki.....Heston Stochastic Volatility Model.
e5
There's actually quite a bit of free code out there. If you don't have MATLAB try OCTAVE (it's free and what I use):
ReplyDeletehttp://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
Here are some links to code that might be of interest:
http://www.global-derivatives.com/index.php/pricing-models-othermenu-41
http://www.math.ku.dk/~rolf/teaching/ctff03/9binomialways.pdf
http://www.dipic.unipd.it/Impianti/Profs/Canu/files/tmp/sde/rep26.pdf
e5,
ReplyDeleteThat stuff is way too tricky for me. I'm the kind of guy that just would like to KEEP the relative purchasing power of the assets I already have, and add $500 or $1000 a day to it before its debased to worthlessness. I live pretty frugally compared to most with my means, , and it wasn't always this way, but anymore, I don't need to actually make anything at all, to be able to live comfortably for the rest of my life, but I do like to win just for grins. It gives me a reason to get out of bed and fight the good fight, and celebrate the wins, if you know what I mean.
A very insightful commentary on the economy vs. corporate EPS is here: http://www.consumerindexes.com/index.html
ReplyDeleteHere is a nice recent article about ECU silver:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ecu.ca/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=410%3Aecu-silver-edges-closer-to-senior-production-in-mexico&catid=74%3A2010&Itemid=216&lang=en
I currently have 20% of my port in ECU, and if ECU drops to CAD$0.52 during the next leg down in the stock market, I'll bump up my position to 25% of my port.
Cheapy not so cheap,
ReplyDeleteI relate to you on some levels. I live frugally by choice. My Federal pension is protected by COLA, FWIW, so I don't need to depend on my rather meager capital to a large extent. I am, however, fixed on preserving it for my offspring intact including inflation effects and hopefully more. When I go, so does the pension except for a survivor annuity.
You have the "golden handshake". I have the "Uncle Sam handshake". Interesting juxtaposition. I believe you win bigger but may be more dependent on Mr Market.