'I'd to set the IRA on autopilot to retirement. I'm looking for 7-8% yields without getting too deep into junk or relying on equity positions.'
Tbolt- Man, you're speaking for an entire generation of boomers! This will be a long-winded reply, because I'm really just trying to organize my thoughts. In no particular order.
(a) By the time we see 7-8% yields, inflation (at least with regard to cost-of-living for most of us) will of course also be higher.
(b) One way to capitalize on the low yields that currently prevail is to refinance an existing mortgage.
(c) I-bonds and TIPS. What are we talking about today, 2%? That doesn't do it for me.
(d) Bonds in general. The entire asset class needs to correct. I just can't see 'bonds' and 'autopilot' in the same sentence right now. Whereas it's relatively easy to use 'bonds' and 'crash' in the same sentence.
(e) Stocks. I really think a pretty simple timing system might do it. Buy into an AZ (late August 2010 comes to mind), sell into a DZ (last week). Right. It's never that easy. 'Letting prices come to you' requires enormous patience (and detachment). 'Letting winners run' requires even more. But it's not impossible. I don't have a lot of patience, but I was able to 'Sell in May' this year and (aside from day trading) basically stay in cash until August- less successful at allowing positions to run.
(f) Hard assets. Real estate will rebound at some point. The trick will be weighing declining home prices against rising interest rates. All I can say is I think I'll recognize the ideal situation (at least, in my local area) when I see it.
(g) Let someone else manage the portfolio. Realistically, that's the only way to detach yourself from market madness and achieve autopilot nirvana.
All of the above is just another way of saying it's never easy to make money.
Take a look at a daily for V. Spiking price bar heading directly into a crashing 10sma! Should be fun :)
ReplyDeleteRe: Stopping out of INTC/Taking profits on CSCO newSubmitted by 2nd_ave (5100 comments) on Mon, 12/27/2010 - 20:09 #76612 (in reply to #76609)
ReplyDeleteGrym- Unreal that we would isolate and respond to the exact same two statements made by Tbolt within 15 minutes of each other. It's like watching myself become more like you by the minute...
A 4% pop for the portfolio today, too bad I've got nearly 1/3 of it in cash (today's loss on the cash position was almost 0.25%)!
ReplyDeleteAMZN - Incredible report on black Friday shopping volume.
Mark- Are you trying to say you spiked your tea with Nyquil at the home bar and crashed into your keyboard while heading for the john?
ReplyDelete4% pop? How much of that was due to Holy Moly?
ReplyDeleteI made absolutely zilch today- not quite sure why I'm in a good mood.
ReplyDeleteThat pretty much explains the last few days 2nd :)
ReplyDeleteCP- If GMO get's rejected @ 6.00ish, how far down would you let her go :)...Sorry, that's the double shot of Nyquil talking :)
ReplyDelete2.35% here.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure I just screwed myself for looking... +29.88% YTD.
ReplyDeleteThere's a clear benefit (call it psychological if you wish- I prefer to think of it as a placebo effect) to alcohol ingestion when down with the flu. I don't know where it comes from, but the makers of Nyquil got it right.
ReplyDeleteI don't see +29.88%, I see -0.12% away from 30%. You almost have to make it +30% or bust to 26%. 29.88%just isn't right.
ReplyDeleteNo chit. I take one shot of Nyquil at night and I'm a silly boy then out like a light.
ReplyDeleteCongrats, though!
ReplyDeleteYeah, pretty much doing to be that way. I'm going to try and push some gains into next year for tax considerations.
ReplyDeleteThanks, but it just clears my previous losses before we all got together, so my thanks to all!...We'll a little better than that, but not much.
ReplyDeleteDamn- I had to edit the main post. I must have used the phrase 'right now' three times.
ReplyDeleteThat still puts you ahead of me- I'm sitting at Summer '08 levels right now.
ReplyDelete'08 was a +30% year up until September 26. That was mainly due to playing the short side.
ReplyDeleteSo getting whacked between October and December was +insult to injury..
The 21st century version of that phrase should be revised to 'adding injury to insult' ;)
ReplyDeleteNot really. I stated losing $'s from day one investing. Jan 09. Now the best I can really say is I've never lost any money to the market. I'd bet your up over 200%. I know it's impossible to figure it out with all the contributions, but I bet I'm close.
ReplyDeleteOr was it Jan 08?
ReplyDeleteNot even. Close to +100% from March '09. And most of that, as you know, was generated prior to mid-May '09. After that, I lost my cojones and I'm still looking for 'em.
ReplyDeleteAlright- I traded cojones for sanity.
ReplyDeleteOr at least a good night's sleep.
ReplyDelete2nd- I'm talking about from the first day you put money into the market.
ReplyDeleteThose FAS days WERE wild man. I'll never forget that :)
ReplyDeleteMark - congrats on the YTD performance. I've personally sat out all of the moves from 12/1. I made gobs of money from 9/1 to 12/1 though. Still sitting in about 60% cash and just waiting for prices to come to me. I don't see a ton out there that looks too cheap, other than RAS and maybe REDF.
ReplyDeleteAnyone catch the Bill Black (I think that's his name) interview on Bloomberg? He basically says don't believe any report coming out of China because there's significant incentive to lie by the locals reporting to the national govt. As I speak I see the Shanghai index breaking below support.
198x?
ReplyDeleteI think my first 'buy' was Fidelity Magellan in 1981 or 1982.
ReplyDeleteSo why didn't today's US market session end lower following Beijing's rate hike?
ReplyDeleteMy belief is the market is convinced Beijing will allow the yuan to move higher in their effort to combat inflation.
Hum... So maybe they don't like the taste of uncle Ben's running China's monetary policy?
Well, my belief is these monetary authorities are working in cahoots with one another and they're simply doing what they have to.
Isn't it obvious? Just look on the right side of the chart there, it's as plain as the nose on your face!
Death and taxes.
We need a decent pullback. To the extent the global bankers have control, I just don't think they'll allow things to get out of hand before the new year. Too many bonuses and too much political good will at stake.
ReplyDeleteChina doesn't like the taste of Uncle Ben's Converted, cp.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that Bill Black fella's been right on the money all along (NOT)!
ReplyDeleteOf course China's naturally going to sell down, that's what happens when you're the world's largest exporter, your currency is undervalued, and your government has finally woken up to the fact that massive trade imbalances upset the global financial well being and are unsustainable in the longer term. Who can buy Chinese products if they have no job?
Ah so what, China is far from sunk! Wonder who's pocket Bill Black is in?
Yeah, from 198X? As apposed to have never invested/traded. I don't care about inflation etc. for the basis of this question. I get that. The reason I ask, is I'm messing around with some RE #'s lately compared to market returns.
ReplyDeleteUB's Wild Rice is a staple here. Really, it's pretty good. Just don't add the flavor pack. More sodium than I have in a week!
ReplyDeleteYou might say Uncle Ben's perverted rice is just too sticky...???
ReplyDeleteActually, it'd be great if any of you guys would care to chime in on my request to 2nd. Keep it really simple. First date into the market and total return to date. Sloppy guesses are fine. I'm just messing around with some ideas in my head. Scary, I know.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty certain I've made more in real estate than I've made in the stock market.
ReplyDeleteGMO - I'll let that puppy fall as far as she wants just as long as there's no bad news, it's all house money at the moment anyway and I'm convinced the mine will begin construction mid next year.
ReplyDeleteSo if I'm right, we're talking $15 by July/Aug and $24 sometime in 2012.
Maybe I'll get lucky enough to double up around $3 again for a rinse and repeat cycle? If so, I'd let those gains ride along shotgun.
Well let's see, I've had my trading account for about three years now and it's 52% greater than when I started.
ReplyDeleteThat was 55% a couple months ago, just before tax loss selling kicked in.
Bloomberg...
ReplyDeleteJapan’s industrial production increased for the first time in six months in November, signaling the nation’s export-led recovery will regain traction.
Factory output climbed 1 percent from October, when it dropped 2 percent, the Trade Ministry said in Tokyo today. The median estimate of 29 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News was for a 0.9 percent gain.
Today’s report eases concern that companies will further scale back production as government stimulus steps fade. Exports withstood a yen near 15-year highs to grow faster for the first time in nine months in November, supported by demand from China, Japanese government data showed last week. Honda Motor Co., Japan’s second-largest automaker, is among companies increasing output to meet demand.
“It’s nice to end the year with some good economic news,” said Akiyoshi Takumori, chief economist at Sumitomo Mitsui Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. “Japan’s still in a soft patch but today’s report signals there will be better times ahead, driven by the global recovery.”
CYB/CNY - Why these two don't track one another closer, I have no idea, but at least they were both green today...
ReplyDeletePMI - Closed above the 50 SMA, gonna break out of it's wedge?
ReplyDeleteHoly Molly...That Batty Natty is up .002!! :)
ReplyDeleteOK, seriously. 2 of my 4 biggest positions, BAC/MMR rebounded nicely off of my adds into weakness on Friday. I'm especially pleased to see MMR out preform OIH by 2.3% today. Both though are at near term resistance, so we shall see. Breaks above this area will be very bullish indeed. Just a wild ass guess, but there just 'feels/looks' like there is an underlying bid in MMR. Regulatory issues might be holding this one back, but my take, and MOG's, is this will be resolved in their favor. Besides, all of the leases MMG STOLE from PXP are shallow water.
Check out the 5-year chart for FCX. My hands are itching to short it at this level. I think there is a 0 chance that FCX does not dip below 100 some time during 2011. However, I don't want to experience the pain of it going to $150 first. With this in mind, if the market collapse does not materialize this week, then on Friday I'll buy one February $129 put on FCX so as to have a finite loss in case FCX keeps going up.
ReplyDeleteI didn't really realize this until now. My adds to MMR/BAC and sale of TIE actually put me into margin by about 2%.
ReplyDeleteMark-
ReplyDeleteHmmmm... Livermore style over here: 1st date in market: sometime in '99. Invested $10k and lost exactly 106.7%. Took 4 years off and re-invested some savings. Up something like 600% in 2003 and lost 97% (due to mega-margin) of it when ELN's MS drug (Antegren- now called Tysabri) failed a later stage trial. Super-margined in TRMM in '03 taking port up 2,000% in 6 months or so and proceeded to lose it all in a crazy behind-the-scenes destruction of the stock. Last hurrah in '04-'05 w/ full margin in RURL, BOOM, FORD, ANTP, ACSEF, TZOO, and LOCM. Port up 15,000% in 18 months. Then....lost over 99% in the '08 debacle. Took couple years off due to what could be considered market-induced depression, traveled the world on a buddhist path, got a tiny bit back through NOL carrybacks and am slowly getting back in the game here and there (carefully). You might say its been a bit of a wild ride:) Never really thought about it, but I guess through it all, I've averaged 20-25% over the years with a couple of mild swings along the way lol:) Definitely not good for the psyche. These days, I much prefer 2nd's more conservative investing philosophy vs. my younger, crazier self.
"Monday, Dec. 27, 2010
ReplyDeleteU.S. alarmed by sharp drop in Japanese enrollments
Officials fear trend may hurt long-term ties
Kyodo News
The U.S. government is taking steps to encourage more Japanese students to study at U.S. universities out of concern that the recent sharp drop in Japanese enrollments might result in weakening bilateral relations over the long run.
The number of Japanese students who entered U.S. universities in fall last year dropped 15 percent from a year earlier to around 24,800, a sharp fall compared with around 47,000 in 2001, according to the U.S. Institute of International Education.
Japan placed sixth on the nationality list of students studying in the United States last year, while China, listed top, increased enrollments by around 30 percent to some 127,600. India ranked second, followed by South Korea."
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20101227a3.html
V...Interesting. My initial price target for this trade was 75ish. I didn't really realize the importance of today's move until now. As you can see, it has already cleared the largest VWAP area and 75 is the next.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.screencast.com/t/sY39yMqtb
David-
ReplyDeleteAgree on FCX. Been waiting on my end to short it for a month or so. Take a look at it on bigcharts "all data" view. SOOO extended. Also look at AAPL's "all data" view. Probably the most over-loved/over-owned stock in the history of the market. On a multi-year timeframe, it looks like a rubber band stretched to its most extreme limit. When it breaks, it will snap back hard and fast...and remember that it is over 20% of the NDX. At some point, Q puts will make a fortunate few an absolute fortune due to its significant underperformance vs. the market.
I say stay the heck away from margin, and if you're that deep, then it might be time to re-evaluate your position sizes.
ReplyDeleteI damn sure wouldn't want to be caught 100% long in a downdraft that could realistically begin at the drop of a hat and last considerably longer than one might anticipate, who needs that level of risk, how can that possibly be justified?
Unless of course you've buffered the risk via hedges of some sort...
Jesse- Man, that's wild. But I agree with your approach now. I have 3 young kids and can't afford/don't want to take on that type of risk. I've tended to move into much more liquid/less beta plays that allow me a second or 2 to think. Good for you to do it when you could. I guess I did the same back then playing cards with all the money I had!!
ReplyDeleteCP- Was that comment about margin related to me?
ReplyDeleteOkay guys, except AAPL and FCX don't look particularly overbought when I look at their forward P/E's... Not that they can't go through a healthy sell off cycle to retest support levels, but I can't imagine how those P/E's are completely unjustifiable....
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, silly me, P/E's don't qualify in terms of indicators b/c earnings just aren't a part of what makes the earth spin on it's axis. ;)
AAPL- You sure? I love their products and will pay up for them. FPE is only 14ish. FCX? I don't get the gold bug thing at all, so maybe. But I do get copper. Mixed bag.
ReplyDeleteFCX - Well, somebody loves gold, so that probably has contributed to the bottom line.
ReplyDeleteThat is, assuming the bottom line actually counts for something. Oops, there I go again!!!
FWIW..I had a call with my ADSK guy today. He's very bullish on their EU business. This aligns with what MOG is saying about PCAR's EU sales.
ReplyDeleteIsn't FCX's gold revenue about 10% and a byproduct of their copper digs?
ReplyDeleteMargin, yeah! I'm just sayin' it's a good idea to keep some dry powder in case you get your hind tit caught between a rock and a hard place...
ReplyDeleteOtherwise, it's like going on a road trip without a spare in the trunk.
Chickenpookie-
ReplyDeleteRemember that stocks have astronically HIGH PE's at market bottoms i.e. CENX PE of 1,000 at $1.04 2 years ago (add in C, BAC, GNW, CAR, CAGC, UEC, VNDA etc.)w/ killer bottoming stock charts (all up well over 500% since then). Conversely, topping stocks have very low PE's at the top when the entire universe projects much higher earnings into the future- any stock in early 2000 or any other major momentum stock I've followed over the past 10 years had low PE's, much enthusiasm, and optimistic projected earnings precisely at the top. I can't find anyone who doesn't believe that AAPl will take over the world. When AAPL eventually starts cutting margins (lets' say 1%) to compete with droid, the stock will crater due to psychology/expectations. When that happens, I'm not entirely sure. Probably not too far off though....
Yeah, my understanding is the gold is usually a by-product, but now gold is worth considerably more than it used to be, so that might tilt the scale slightly.
ReplyDeleteI'm impressed you know approx. ratio of their rev results from gold sales, maybe you're smarter than I'd imagined....?!?!
CP- Yeah, your right. I'll take some corrective measures tomorrow. See you cats at the open. The Nyquil is kicking in. God I'm such a wuss.
ReplyDeleteJesse -- you definitely had some fortitude in the past, holding stocks on full margin until they rise 15,000%. That's crazy! I can barely hold stock after they run 15%, and you talk 15000%! :) You are the man!
ReplyDeleteAs for FCX, I have a strong desire to short it now not just because its price chart looks very overbought, but also because the latest COT report showed that as of December 21, the difference between net long and net short futures positions for the "managed money" category (which very well represent the crowd view and peak together with price peaks) is by far the highest it has been in 2010. So copper is not only extremely overbought now but is also extremely overbullish. This suggests that an abrupt decline is not far away.
I'm much too young for you CP, but I'm flattered... Perhaps a Cancun get together :)
ReplyDeleteTomorrow my friends.
jesse, Of course and I agree, but I'm not just looking at forward P/E, also looking at current P/E.
ReplyDeleteI'm just sayin' there are some incredibly high P/E's out there that surely aren't as justifiable?
For all I know, AAPL might have their own version of 15-G DROID-BOT in the pipeline, ready to leap-frog the human race deep into the future of where communications should've been 10 years ago?
Somebody's gotta do it, may as well be APPL otherwise we'd still be using string and tin cans?
I have absolutely nothing against trading the right side of any reversal, and there's no better trade than one that's planned in advance. ;)
I have no idea what my returns are...I have had monster runs off recession lows so in a way im rooting for another recession. I have multiple accounts and I add/ pull $$ to/from them regularly so its hard to tell. I've taken 2 yrs off and launched a biz with my profits but I've had a few bad years too...not jesse swings but still a lot of riak. I think im up about 700 to 800% from lows in 2009 for what its worth but I have no idea. Lately I've just been waiting for obvious turning pts b4 going balls deep long/short...or at least im trying to train myself to do thatt...its so easy to over trade
ReplyDeleteNot sure how to post charts here. Perhaps I'll put together all of my stockcharts.com charts and put in a single email. Looks like commodities/gold etc. are at the tail end of a 5th wave surge- w/ resulting negative outcome. Natty perhaps breaking out of 3 year downtrend w/ multi-bagger potential (over time).
ReplyDeleteJesse, That sounds like an even wilder ride than mine.
ReplyDeleteSuggestion: Next time you find yourself up $5 million, take some cookies off the table before they disappear again...
Will be interesting to see if the recent selling in nat gas/UNG/UNL/GAZ etc. is due to end of year tax loss selling. As far as I can see, natty and all of its instruments are the only commodities or stocks near their 52 week lows. Often times when you see a stock experiencing heavy tax loss selling in December, it can take a nice ride higher in the last few trading sessions of the year as tax loss selling abates and investors begin positioning for the next calendar year. We'll see....
ReplyDeleteBill's on top of his game this morning. Y'all should read the transcript of closing trades on Monday.
ReplyDeleteAs for me, I'm stuck here on the ground, as drunk as I can be, watching that 707 wing its way home...
ReplyDeleteNot a problem, man. I'm going to get up (in a minute, son), take a leak, then slog my way through the early morning rain.
ReplyDeleteA trade will come my way soon enough...
Bought a few SPY Jan $127 Puts at $2.47 right at the open as I don't buy the pop.
ReplyDeleteI'm liking the setup in eBay right now.
ReplyDeleteOh no, not another drunken 707 pilot!
ReplyDeleteTime to look @ EBAY chart, tkx for reminder...
EBAY - Hey, wonder of that gap up from $26 to $27 is gonna fill? I bet it doesn't?
ReplyDeleteMan, my stuff is really fast and choppy today. Makes me a little nervous.
ReplyDeleteJust noticed Hindenburg Omen on December 16th on a site I haven't checked in awhile. "I am taking this signal seriously because we are getting a lot of signals that usually mark a major top in the market such as a divergence on the A/D line, readings above 50 on the AAII sentiment survey, VIX readings under 18, 10dma of put/call ratio at extremes. Take heed- this signal is largely being ignored because it didn't pan out last August. We may have put in a major top."
ReplyDeleteKeep in mind- there's no NEED to trade. Wait for entries. If you don't see one, have a cup of coffee.
ReplyDeletejesse- Yeah, it does feel a little like everyone that wants to be on board is on board right now.
ReplyDeleteBut that refers only to the ST. I still think J6P is watching the slow climb to new 2-yr highs and finding it hard to stay out.
ReplyDeleteEBAY- Light VWAP area here. I don't know. Kinda seems like it can get into that gap/100sma area to me.
ReplyDeleteJesse- A top? Actually, it kinda looks like that to me, so it probably isn't right? ;)
JB- Their talking about your town on CNBC!!!
V gaped over the 10 this morning. Now let's see if it acts as support.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened, did 2nd's 707 really go down somewhere in the central valley?
ReplyDeleteDamn, I saw ATNI under $37 and thought for a moment it might be a good op for adding...
ReplyDeleteKinda weird, I can't make myself do that when China keeps selling off...
My thinking is next CPC put/call close below .65 will mark the turning point. If this coincides w/ a move in the smart money confidence below 29, I'll buy QQQQ puts. CPC ratio stands at .64 currently. Down 18% for the day. As always, the close is key.
ReplyDeleteI don't know man, considering gold's action, I have to lean towards more equities upside here.
ReplyDeleteAnd was just looking at TZA. Judging by the chart, looks like a major reversal pattern in the works. Unfortunately, it is still TZA- the portfolio kiss of death:)
ReplyDeleteUsually when gold's moving up, I know I'm taking another hit on my cash position again.
ReplyDeleteToday is no exception, at least my other positions are more than compensating.
Mark, your right, my port has been doing quite well so far this week but has a ways to go before it reflects actual value.
ReplyDeleteI really didn't anticipate such a rapid move...
Bought a few eBay Jan $27 Calls at $1.81 earlier.
ReplyDelete"Consumer Confidence Unexpectedly Falls in December"
ReplyDeleteWell, I certainly didn't see that coming, I thought shoppers were splurging??? Who's making up this crap, anyway?
Mark - did you realize that on a GAAP basis, RAS has posted a $1.08/share profit in the trailing twelve months? And that Shareholders Equity has risen over $120 Million (about $1.33/share) in just the past 4 quarters? The company now has a book value of $9.17/share.
ReplyDeleteTOF- No, I didn't. I leave all of that up to you :). I just like looking a pretty colored chats!
ReplyDeleteGL guys. +.69% right now, but for some reason, I fully expect to be red by the time I get back. Just doesn't feel right.
Just for comparison sakes, RAS is trading at $2.12 or about 1/5th of book value.
ReplyDeleteSentimentrader- "hedgers moved to a new record net short position, more than doubling it from the prior week (from approximately $4.2 billion to $8.8 billion). At the same time "smart money" hedgers are at a record net short the Nasdaq 100 futures, Rydex mutual fund traders are extremely net long that same index.The un-leveraged Bull Ratio spiked to 38 as of Monday's close (meaning there was 38 times more assets invested in the long fund than the inverse fund). That's up from a ratio of less than 28 a week ago when the NDX was trading at about the same level. The only other times the ratio has been higher were in January and June/July 2000, and again in mid-January 2001. The leveraged ratio is also the highest since those dates, but it got much higher then."
ReplyDeleteWell, if this train even hints of a lurch backward once more as a warning for the last few passengers to load, then I'm adding.
ReplyDeleteDouble dip? Oh please try a little harder, that old story line is getting pretty stale!
Well, now my port is up 65% from where I started three years ago, and nearly 1/3 is currently cash.
ReplyDeleteI fully anticipate to see $5 gasoline this next year, and $25~$30 molybdenum, which puts a functioning Mt. Hope moly mine well over $24, closer to $40, assuming no dilution takes place.
I keep recalling Uncle Ben's words about how he anticipates commodities inflation is self-limiting b/c at some point consumers will refuse to absorb higher prices.
ReplyDeleteI suppose he was referring to those who's income is severely constrained due to unfavorable employment conditions, so here we go again, full circle.
I suppose at this point we need to observe a lift in emerging market indicies before the train can actually leave the station.
EEM - Currently sitting on the lower trend line, I bet it resumes upward momentum soon...
Exciting times!
Oh lookie there, copper broke $4.30! Imagine that! Sure wish I knew who the single trader is that holds 80~90% of the inventory. If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's China, indirectly, if not directly...
ReplyDeleteATNI - Leap-frogging $38 now!
ReplyDeleteCSCO - Still inching up...?!?! Must be suffering from shortness of pants...
ReplyDeletejesse- How does sentiment trader define 'smart money?'
ReplyDeleteSeems like a bullish sign for PKX:
ReplyDelete"Stainless steel: 5.5% price hike by South Korea's POSCO (Hyunjoo Jin, Reuters, 28 Dec 2010)"
Not sure of their exact definition of smart money. Can't seem to find it on the site. I just sent you a chart of the smart $/dumb $ spread. Very reliable on a historical basis. About as wide as its been in the last 5 years- as far as the chart goes back.
ReplyDeleteThanks.
ReplyDeleteI'm definitely in wait mode right now. Can't count the number of times I've chased prices to my regret...
It's a matter of style, risk, timelines, priorities.
ReplyDeleteSay you didn't get in on CSCO yesterday and you have missed a .33 cent move. Using a $100,000 port example you would have (I would have) allotted 3000 shares and made, if I sold todays high of 20.50, $990. Would I take $990? Sure!
Same for SLW. That would have been about 1300 shares, say at the close of 36.54 and assuming you top ticked it today you sold for 38.44 and would have made $2522. I'd take it too...for sure!
But we have to ask what the risk was, as everything looks great in hindsight. That's human nature. SLW closed in the middle of yesterdays range. Not a strong close but off the bottom. Not however at the top of the bar (strong) or above the low bar, so it had some risk of continuing down. There are things we mere mortals cannot know, like what is going to happen to the Euro overnight, no matter what some bloggers claim.
So I compare it to what is happening for me today. I have a position in NGD on auto pilot and I'm very happy.
The SLV (I'll use it as the proxy for SLW) was bought at 26.70, 1000 shares @2% risk. I sold 500 shares at 29.90 ($1600) and the remaining 500 shares are at 29.65 and I will hold those with a break even stop until it moves more in my favor.
Another pick was SIRI at 1.38. At 2% risk that is 15,000 shares, of which I sold 7500 @ $1.68 for a $2250 profit. I still hold 7500 @ 1.61 today. ($1725).
At some point you have to decide how hard you want to work at this and how much risk is involved.
As it was, this AM at 5:30 my power went out and I couldn't check the market until about 8:30 (PST), so I slept in. All in all it comes out in the laundry, no?
I still think CSCO peters out in all the overhead resistance. I likely wouldn't be interested in it as it is too big and slow and hasn't re-established an uptrend. If it makes new highs and pulls back, I might, but it is pretty big with low historical volatility (beta). It IS liquid though, if that is your style.
I think SLW is a good pick as I said yesterday and it was a really good set-up this AM, but it wasn't yesterday. If I had power this AM I would have been interested in SLW around 37.90-38 with about a 35+ stop. But the SLV will have to do.
My main point is about risk and potential gains.
There are a lot of systems, but we all have to do what fits our psyche, style and risk tolerance. If you miss a set-up, you just wait for the next one. In this game regrets and hindsight can be damaging.
FF
I am turning bearish on UNG until next December (I'll explain why later on today), and so I decided to sell my holdings at an accelerated pace. So I just sold at $5.85 the 400 shares I picked up at $5.60 and then sold at $5.84 the 300 shares of UNG I picked up recently at $5.83 (it's not about making profits now but about quickly reducing my position into any rally).
ReplyDeleteBought another 5k of RAS at $2.14...now have 20k.
ReplyDeleteCraig- Thanks for the lesson.
ReplyDeleteCADC - Poised to retake the 50 SMA, let's see what happens...
ReplyDelete"Often times when you see a stock experiencing heavy tax loss selling in December, it can take a nice ride higher in the last few trading sessions of the year as tax loss selling abates and investors begin positioning for the next calendar year. We'll see...."
ReplyDeleteJesse -- is that your theory working out with natty today? Good intuition!
This chihuaua seems to like The Cranberries, starts wagging his tale. Must be the female voice, he's such a sucker for it!
ReplyDelete"Oh lookie there, copper broke $4.30!"
ReplyDeleteCP -- where do you check the copper price? I used to look at http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/copper_historical.html, but that chart has been flat for a couple of days now...
"Not sure of their exact definition of smart money. Can't seem to find it on the site. I just sent you a chart of the smart $/dumb $ spread. Very reliable on a historical basis. About as wide as its been in the last 5 years- as far as the chart goes back."
ReplyDeleteJesse -- can you please also send that chart to me via caracommunity.com? I am DavidV there... Thanks!
David-
ReplyDeleteYeah, the natty theme playing out. Just read a very bearish natgas article on Bloomberg essentially saying that professional traders are at their year-high net short position as the next 2 weeks will be "blowtorch" hot. Something just tells me that 2011 will be a monster year for natgas- perhaps 3-400% upside. Perhaps the smart money is positioning itself prior to year end. Again, we'll see how it plays out. The good thing is that there is no more Contango to contend with for UNG.
Sold my RIMM puts at $4.9, which I bought a couple of days ago at $4.45 since the stock refuses to break through $58 and stay there.
ReplyDeleteI also bought another 10k of RAS at $2.15 to up my holdings to 30k.
I also bought some April $26 eBay Calls at $3.3 and some more Jan $27 Calls at $1.8 average. I really like the rounded bottom in eBay right here.
Was it here that someone posted a story about NG trucks? Paccar and Cummins are well into NG fueled trucks and have sold a good number of them already. Once we start using NG for transport fuel I think the same thing that happened to diesel prices will happen to NG. Remember how everyone flocked to diesel vehicles due to the improved torque, mileage and price. That price advantage sure disappeared quickly.
ReplyDeleteSo I suspect in the not too distant future when we talk about NG it won't all be about weather.
We'll be going to those fuel sales websites to check NG sales for trucking.
Also, a nearby NG electrical generation facility is about to double in capacity. WAY cleaner than coal, less carbon, and it takes 90 years to re-sequester carbon dioxide from biomass as opposed to NG, with less particulates, zero dioxin and NOx for NG. The price is very low and those edible fracking liquids are disarming the opposition. What's not to like?
The CHART! The chart sucks. So my position is VERY VERY small. Got into it quite a while ago...so just holding and waiting.
FF
David, I've been referring to this site for copper quotes:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.metalprices.com/FreeSite/metals/cu/cu.asp
If you want a quick trade, I'd recommend buying CMG if it breaks above $221.
ReplyDeleteScrew it I decided to load more RAS at $2.19. I now have about 50k shares.
ReplyDeleteMy RAS was averaged in at $2.211. Let's see where she goes. This is my 2nd attempt with a large position in this stock. I really like the daily and weekly chart and like that it is trading at about 0.23 times book value.
ReplyDeleteWSJ - "* DECEMBER 28, 2010, 3:14 P.M. ET
ReplyDeleteChina Cuts Export Quota on Rare-Earth Metals
China cut its quotas on first-half exports of rare-earth metals around 35%, a move likely to feed trade tensions and concerns among global buyers after an even deeper cut late this year.
China supplies around 95% of the world's rare-earth metals, which are used in high-tech batteries, television sets, mobile phones and defense products. Beijing's decision to cut export quotas by 72% for this year's second half sparked criticism that China was taking undue advantage of its position to raise prices. "
David- mail.
ReplyDeleteSHLD - Nice high P/E there, but I just don't feel motivated on this one.
ReplyDeleteImbalances...
ReplyDeleteBUY- C/BAC/JPM
SELL- V/AA/CHK/CAM/HAL
let's keep an eye on LLNW.
ReplyDeleteRBY - Wow, I just noticed CB's bet is paying off quite nicely!
ReplyDeleteGood going, CB!
Yupper....
ReplyDeleteMy IRA is now at almost 31 times what I deposited :)
ReplyDeleteCP: Killer moves in GMO/REE.
ReplyDeleteGMO closed just above the opening price, REE weaker, at the bottom of it's daily range, but still holding the gap up.
Seems to be driven by MCP rumor/news.
Knockout move in MCP, but off the daily bottom.
MCP had the better chart and trend, the knockout is a possible opportunity.
I think you are right about rare earths. Old news, but militarily sound and some have a PM component.
I would look to buy MCP if trend resumes.
LLNW - Yeah, now there's a P/E that's definitely thought provoking!
ReplyDelete+ .72%.....At the bar :)!
ReplyDeleteLOL! I noticed RBY all day (well actually from 8:30) as it was 4%+/- over NGD which I hold in several accts.
ReplyDeleteSold partial in one acct. at 9.69
No more couch for CB! Congratulations!
FF
MCP - I have quite a bit of difficulty with that market cap, but I also realize the Japanese (Sumitomo/Hitachi, etc.) are quite serious about procuring these materials for their manufacturing industry while at the same time working on newer designs which aren't so dependent on rare earths.
ReplyDeleteIt also provides some opportunity for them to improve their image and perhaps combat further "Japan passing".
MCP could become a great play.... Not sure I have the stomach for it at this point though.
GMO - I'm becoming more convinced the Hope mine will proceed forward into production, intend to off my position somewhere around mid/low $30's.
ReplyDeleteSure wish I had the same time machine some others appear to have, so I could go back and add last week, the week before, etc...
Thanks for the mail, 2nd_ave! Does anyone here know how the smart and dumb money confidence is computed by sentimenttrader? It shows that the smart money confidence has been declining over the past few months, and seems highly strange to me that ANYBODY's confidence would be down right now...
ReplyDeleteCADC - I'm sitting on a 22% gain there too, and I'm also confident it's worth considerably more than $5.
ReplyDeleteThat was 4.3% for the port today, obviously didn't hold onto the high but close enough for me.
ReplyDeleteI'm just thinking the rare earth sector (military neodymium being important here) is in a big uptrend, and bad news, made up or not is an opportunity in a strong trending stock like MCP.
ReplyDeleteSo we see MCP news and what happens to GMO/REE?
They break out of that sideways action because the sector itself is strong. Hey, maybe they start to really rally and then pullback for an entry, but MCP was already strongly trending and the risk/reward is exactly the same to me whether I buy a $6.00 stock or a $46.00 stock.
If it were to pullback and stay above $40 I would be a buyer when it took off. It's just ahead of the others because for me they have to pullback and if they pullback now it's back to previous levels which diminishes the point of buying the pullback to begin with....risk. Whereas MCP is already in a knockout pattern. All that does is shakeout the weak hands and lay the groundwork for stronger buyers and previous holders who aren't going anywhere.
The biggest driver for these materials are precision guided missiles, and having China control the vast majority of neodymium is a dangerous problem.
See this: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/63400346/
The 11% cut to exports just intensifies this shortage/control. This is about way more than Japan and commercial manufacturing.
My take on 'smart money' confidence declining would be simple- it's time to take profits.
ReplyDeleteNow that we're getting drenched with champagne, I try to keep a few of the road signs I've passed along the way in the back of my mind:
(a) Hussman's warnings.
(b) Hulbert's 'insider' sell alert.
(c) AAII survey: as flawed as the methodology is, it apparently works.
(d) When I see stocks like GMO and RBY making these kinds of moves, it just raises a sentiment flag.
"Something just tells me that 2011 will be a monster year for natgas- perhaps 3-400% upside."
ReplyDeleteI doubt that, Jesse. You can't just look at the price chart and forget about the fundamentals when predicting commodity prices. Especially for UNG, which is a different animal every month (due to rollovers) and hence the charts from previous months simply do not apply.
I got my hands yesterday on a Credit Suisse report about energy in 2011, and here is an excerpt from it:
“While the dry gas rig count is starting decline, we believe production declines are unlikely to materialize until 2H11. That is largely due to the current well backlog nationwide given limited completion crews. Numerous producers have cited sizeable well backlogs in the both the Haynesville and the Eagle Ford.”
At the same time, multiple analysts have mentioned recently that as the year progresses, producers will start drilling less and less due to hedge and lease expiration. Putting all the above influences together, CS summarizes their conclusions in Exhibit 36, where they list all major supply/demand factors and consider their net effect by quarter in 2011. Their conclusions about net supply change relative to 2010 market balance are as follows:
Q1 +1.1 Bcf/d
Q2 +0.4 Bcf/d
Q3 -0.6 Bcf/d
Q4 -1.9 Bcf/d.
Think about what this means in terms of NG storage numbers, which determine the NG price since they give a living proof of the current supply/demand balance in the market. In Q1 and Q2 there will be a net daily inflow into storage relative to what happening in 2010. NG had a pretty big collapse in the spring 2010 EVEN after a very cold winter. With the predicted net inflows in 1H2011, the storage level in the spring of 2011 will be even higher this year, which can really depress the NG prices. In Q3, which is the time when largest inflows happen into storage and all traders start freaking out about it overfilling (and when contango traditionally destroys UNG), the net storage inflows will be smaller than in 2010 BUT THERE WILL STILL BE INFLOWS, so after the first 2 quarters of 2011, the storage should be sky high by November 2011 and NG can temporarily drop to or below the 2009 lows of $2. At the same time, smart traders will be looking ahead to the winter with possible cold weather AND accelerating drawdowns due to steadily decreasing supply inflows and will be pricing January futures at $6. It will be a TOTALLY DEVASTATING contango.
So my decision is to get out of UNG as fast as possible, selling it quickly into any rallies we get over the next few weeks. I'll be back with vengeance in later November 2011 though, as soon as UNG starts tracking January futures and contango disappears.
2nd, we've been passing those road signs for about 2 years now, and yes, I do anticipate GMO will likely move sideways for a while but there's another dynamic involved on this one that's indirectly related to the broad market.
ReplyDeleteI don't know for sure what's driving RBY but my guess is CB's got the reasons nailed: 1) Cheap startup with high grade ore, 2) Potential buyout target (my idea?)
We're going through a global monetary reset process, necessitated by a couple of decades of misdirected financial engineering efforts. The market isn't pumped up, certain currencies are.
MCP - Bad news? I missed that one, I interpreted today's Chinese export limit as good news for MCP, yet today's action indicated otherwise.
ReplyDeleteMilitary use? Personally, I could give a rat's ass about missiles, how do we fight gorilla warfare using missiles? Drones yes perhaps, missiles, no.
What does a drone use as a weapon? I'm thinking it's called a precision guided missile.....
ReplyDeleteHow do you light up Kim Jung Il with gorilla fighting, or defend against China, Russia or ?
Iraq, Afghanistan, areas with lower populations to fight can use gorilla tactics. N. Korea has a massive military and if we, God forbid, have to fight in Korea, will be using heavy military hardware and missiles. Lots of missiles.
I guarantee, our military factors in all types of combat and weaponry needs, which MUST include precision missiles of all sizes. Nowadays, all types of weapons have precision guidance, including artillery. I live not too far from Fort Lewis, and we can pretty much determine when our military is on the move somewhere because artillery practice picks up and living on an island, we get a little shaking and shuddering when they are practicing.
MCP news: http://www.businessinsider.com/molycorp-mountain-pass-mine-rare-earths-2010-12
I guess you're right, drones don't exactly drop hand grenades.
ReplyDeleteMCP - Oh no! Groundbreaking an entire year away? LOL, We should just buy and hold MCP for a flip next year.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'll look for an entry.
The only way we're going into North Korea is with China's blessing, this might be what they've got in mind, or maybe they want to take care of the issue themselves, but I do get the feeling China is getting tired of Kim Jung Ill and is ready to make some deal(s).
ReplyDeleteI can envision China's progression into the modern era.
TOF- Got to be pleased with the action in RAS today. I only have 10K shares but might cash in the extra shares of BAC in my IRA to bump that total up to 20K. I honestly have enough BAC, 9K shares, in my trading account and didn't like the action/news on it today. I'm up 17.88% on it and that already is a nice chunk of change.
ReplyDeleteMark "Man, my stuff is really fast and choppy today. Makes me a little nervous. "
ReplyDeleteMaybe a change of diet will help there...
CP- Good point. After 3 days of the flu, I'm going back on my beer only diet. Much more calming :)
ReplyDeleteNice move in ASTM today.
ReplyDeleteYou can always try Depends. I hate it when I get fast and choppy, it makes me nervous too.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Allstate suing BAC? That's gotta get fugly.
Anybody read Doug Kass' surprises for 2011?
If they don't make you fast and choppy, nothing will. I'm ordering a case of immodium.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2010/12/kass-15-surprises-2011/
FF
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ReplyDelete- Beer and Popcorn Diet™
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Mark - I think RAS is gearing up for a move here. But then again I'm a little biased.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, what's your email address again? Sorry I forgot which day you posted it. Too much stuff going on right now. Wedding is in 11 days!
Side note > We are wrapping up our financials for the year for my furniture business and we did about 7% of our transactions through Paypal. Think of how much revenue is generated through online sales. If the average retailer is doing at least 7% through Paypal, then eBay has to be doing really well. One of my friends owns a lower margin computer software/hardware/parts business that is doing about $4-$5 Million a year in revenues and they moved all of their business over to Paypal. Paypal is making about $75-100k a year off of them.
11 days! Holly Crap! I can wear shorts and t-shirt right? :)
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Absolutely! We're doing a semi-casual attire wedding right on the cliffs in Ocean Beach. Hopefully we won't have an earthquake.
ReplyDeleteRight on. We had a casual wedding also. Open bar, killer catered on site BBQ. We wanted it to be FUN! And it was. Everyone had a blast.
ReplyDeleteCB- No chance that's a Roth IRA right? :)
ReplyDeleteno, there was only one yesr i had a bad enough year, but would have had to dump on the lows to pay the tax to convert.
ReplyDeleteto be honest, i'm very thankful to be up that much, compared to everyone else i know, even if i have to eventually give 1/2 back.
it doesn't matter, its all monopoly money from here, anyway
Shanghai bouncing off the 200SMA, hope it stays green...
ReplyDeleteA little more from Doug Kass...
ReplyDeletehttp://seabreezepartners.net/letters&id=868&catid=15