Saturday, July 19, 2014

7/19/14 Anatomy of a Loss/ Miners

I took two consecutive (simultaneous, actually) losses on Friday: (i) a position in VXX went against me almost immediately, and (ii) a short on Emerging Markets (the bet was a continuation of global selloffs overnight) which landed me on the wrong side of an extraordinary squeeze.

Losses are part of trading.  One might even say it's the most important part of trading.  Yet it's a topic that's not often discussed.  Let's discuss it.

(a) The difference between a good trader and a great trader lies in the ability to handle losses.  (There are no bad traders, as the term is an oxymoron- no one who trades badly survives long enough to become a trader.)

(b) I'll start by being lazy and include two more quotes, this time from Barry Ritholtz:

Loss cutting:  Trading has this amazing historical footnote: If you study the great traders throughout history, they all share the same statement as their number one rule: CUT YOUR LOSSES! Capital preservation “keeps you in the game.” It is especially important once you understand the math: a 25% drawdown requires a 33% gain to get to break even; Down 33% means you need to rally 50% to get back to square one; As we saw in 2008-08, a -50% loss requires a +100% gain to get back to even. In sports “Defense Wins Championships.” The same goes for stock trading. Most traders need to focus more on defense.

Even Warren Buffett understand the traders credo: “The first rule of investing is don’t lose money. The second rule is don’t forget Rule No. 1.

(c) VXX.  I set a stop that made sense from the perspective of my psyche.  I stopped out at the point at which a loss would offset a gain on the same position the previous day.

(d) RYWYX.  From the same perspective, this loss was fundamentally more difficult to handle.  Being on the wrong side of a squeeze is painful enough.  Having the position 'locked up' until one of two trading windows is worse.  But I knew this going in.  Thus, my backstop (not just financial, but also emotional) was position size.  A 'very small' position enabled me to bypass the 1030 am window and give the position more time to play out.  It played out even further against me, extending a -3.19% loss at 1030 est into a -3.84% loss at 4 pm.  No worries- I had sized the position correctly.

(e) So how do I define 'handling a loss?'  I use a proactive definition.  I open a position not with a target gain, but a target stop.  Defining my loss parameters then allows me to appropriately assess and size the trade.

Miners.

Gold and miners caught bids at important support levels at Tuesday's close, then rallied hard Thursday on high volume (GDXJ or juniors in particular).  On Friday, they had every reason to give it all back, yet both majors and minors managed to retain most of Thursday's gains.  IMO, that bodes well for prices going forward.  No guarantees, of course.  Which is why I opened positions with target stops.  That said, I place odds on another leg up in miners next week.


202 comments:

  1. My biggest takeaway this week? Wait. Had I simply waited for better pitches, I would have had a great week. 'Forced' trades on VXX, UGAZ, and RYWYX led to losses that would instead have been good gains had I simply waited for entries.

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  2. 'The Man From Beijing.' NFLX.

    Another great film based on a novel by Swedish writer Henning Mankell.

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  3. How might Hussman be proven "stopped-clock" correct? Among a few others: "an aging demographic could become less tolerant of equity volatility and sell down the market’s valuation"

    This is me, I think....

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  4. The last part of this sentence sounds dangerous, doesn't it? Okay, so I have to ask the obvious question: How does he know everyone recently went "all in"? Sorry, but I live on Mars and unaware of many facts and current events.

    " The “story” of the bull market has been the battle between these bullish drivers and the bearish psychological residue of 2008–the caution and hesitation to take risk, driven by lingering fears of a repeat, that has prevented investors from going “all in”, at least until recently."

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    1. All in? Try the following link, and scroll down to the July 18 post for charts:

      http://shortsideoflong.com/

      'According to the recent Merrill Lynch Fund Manager Survey, global fund managers are overweight equities by 61%. This is the highest equity exposure since February 2011, just as the Eurozone Crisis and global equity bear market was starting. Merrill Lynch report writes:

      'Improving investor sentiment on global growth, inflation, equities and risk-taking are all testament to a potential macro normalization in the second half. This could eventually feed into a normalization of rates. If growth does pick up, volatility will rise too,” said Michael Hartnett, chief investment strategist at BofA Merrill Lynch Research.

      'Global Asset Allocators overweight on Equities rose to highest reading in over three years. The reading of net 61% OW is the second highest reading in the surveys history. Merrill Lynch warned that any summer “melt-up” in stocks, “is likely to be followed by an autumn correction. This aggressive positioning for recovery in H2 reflects a significant increase in investors’ inflation expectations,” the survey said.

      'I’ve included both the shorter term and the long term charts for viewing pleasure. At the same time, I would like to make a further observation that exposure towards bonds continued to decrease as per the survey. The question now is, with majority of the fund managers overweight equities, are we seeing the start of a stock market correction?'

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    2. Sorry I just don't buy that. I think we could have a correction but I don't buy that people are overweight or all in or excessively bullish in any way. I think people are only just now starting to accept that the economy is getting slightly better but the negative 2.9% GDP last quarter leaves plenty of doubters. There's a huge swath of people that for some idiotic reason think the economy has to do well in order for markets to do well. So I would say the majority of people believe the fed is entirely behind this bull market and with the fed on the precipice of ending it's taper there's no way in hell that majority is all in.

      As far as days without 10% corrections or other stats thrown out there: how come now one ever mentions the flip side: how many times in history did we have 4 years in a row with at least an 18% correction? I believe it's been 100 years before it happened recently in 2008 to 2011.

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    3. My handy litmus test I think proves this point about apathy toward stocks: on both flights to/from Boston last week not 1 single person was watching cnbc

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  5. I still have a real hard time with just "taking the loss".

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    1. I agree. I want every trade to be a winner.

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  6. 2nd- How often does your NFLX connection fail?

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  7. PCRX is basing above old highs. Great low risk entry IMO

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  8. UNG sure looks like it wants to test 17.50ish.

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  9. BXE - 60k shares out of the gate, was it an @market order?

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  10. Reopened RSX @ 24.68 on the -2.5% drop this morning.

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  11. Small position in GDXJ @ 43.43.

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  12. In response to your question, Mark- my NFLX connection fails maybe once a week, but it's usually only momentarily.

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  13. I meant to say- UGAZ, that mutha! But you knew that.

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    1. A classic example of investing in what you know Mark. You saw the adoption first hand.

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    2. You made me look, holy crap it's popular.

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  15. SNE - Doesn't seem to be dropping much lately, I figure if TOF re-enters I can get in lower....

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    1. It will gap up on day and run like a pig out of nowhere. The entry won't be easy on it. Hence why I'm long and staying long.

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  16. ENSV up 40% in 2 weeks. Wow.

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  17. INTC - Finally seems to have turned the corner after a decade of flatness, something's going on?

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  18. GE - Not having a good day at all, didn't realize INTC was valued so much less.

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    1. Interesting (GE). I do like that company but it's just too complicated for me to figure out if there are any major issues hidden.

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  19. I'm seeing a good deal of green in my watch list. I suspect markets will follow...

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  20. SPWR rebounding nicely. If that clears $39.3 today it should rip back up to old highs I would think.

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    1. No I came back last week. Was there for the weekend for a buddy's bach party.

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  21. ENPH - I'm guessing there must've been news of some type.

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  22. NWLI - Every day someone sells this one down $4 then bids it back up later... Shaking the tree?

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  23. BXE - I'm ready to add, but afraid to.

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  24. Once again, miners had every opp to drop, but prices are holding. More weak hands taken out his morning.

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  25. EPAM - There must be decent support here.

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  26. ENSV has been a beast! If only I made that a 25% position instead of 5%...I had a tough time getting shares when I was buying...no wonder.

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    1. Wow, no kidding around... really been strong.

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    2. My gut was telling me to add a lot more after their earnings announcement dropped it to around $2.5 but I chose not to, unfortunately. I had a feeling that was a big buying opp

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  27. I don't know why but I shorted NFLX for a trade at $456.8.

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  28. Almost every momo stock was up today. Today just smells like a fakeout day.

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  29. I ate at a Potbelly (PBPB) in the airport at Boston last week. Pretty lousy experience. Reminds me of a dull version of Quiznos (now Ch. 11).

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  30. JNJ - Buybacks..... HAL - Increased buyback budget,,, Buybacks warning zone or what?

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  31. Covered NFLX short at $454.7 for a few shekels.

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    1. This was only an after hours trade that I was unwilling to hold overnight. The fact is if you think of the bigger picture: NFLX will have 53 million paying subs at the end of q3 and most likely will have 100 million within a couple of years (at $10/mo that's $12 Billion in revenues annually). its one of the more stabile businesses in my opinion, despite that crazy swings in the stock, because the brand is ubiquitous with streaming video. I've also heard from friends that work in the movie / film business that NFLX is completely disrupting the way movies / shows are produced. So it makes sense to me that so many people are enamored with it as a stock.

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    2. One way to overcome an opposing force that's a thorn in your side is by hiring them.

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  32. UNG - There really isn't much time remaining to get this one to target prior to the next polar eclipse.

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  33. DG - Closed that June gap up, huh?

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    1. There's only like 9 million shares in the float. I think it was 11 million at IPO and Fidelity owns 1 million. I'm just holding tight on that one. If it catches the right momentum wind it could do an absolute moonshot to like $80.

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    2. The downside is pretty low in my opinion because it's trading at like 15 times this years estimates which is really really low considering the story surrounding it (i.e., the Chinese Zillow, 50%+ growth, etc.). I'm thinking when they report Q2 earnings and roll out the Zillow partnership it has at least a decent chance of really going nuts.

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    3. Oh it's been great but it's volatile as shit. I've seen it do 4 to 10% intraday swings every single day for the past 2 weeks.

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  35. We've got the biggest balls of all! :)

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  36. NFLX - There goes your short!!! :)

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    1. Yeah the trading just "felt" weak after that report. I had nothing other than a feeling to back up a short.

      I was thinking more last night about the impact Amazon Prime would have on it and I just don't think it ultimately hurts them. I think it will be difficult to get customers to associate Amazon with streaming en masse. The Netflix brand is really well known. Maybe over time who knows. We use Amazon Prime to watch movies (if we ever get a chance to watch movies) but the experience just isn't the same as the DVDs from OUTR with the big screen TV.

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  37. Pretty impressive how well BALT is holding in despite abysmal rates. If rates start creeping up I'd have to imagine it runs back into the $7's pretty quickly.

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    1. I think the bet is rates have bottomed and will begin rising again. They may be correct, difficult to say.

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  38. TXT - I'm hearing ads from this company on the DC station again, they must be vying for another contract. That Osprey is quite a remarkable machine from what I hear, a big part of it is the range it has.

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  39. NFLX/AMZN- I agree TOF about Prime Video. I just don't think they would want to sink enough money into it. I do think NFLX could really be in trouble if subscribers slow even a tiny bit.

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    1. Tough to say because every month they're adding more and more subscribers that are paying recurring monthly fees. The main issue in my opinion is the fact that the economics of the business aren't all that great. The content providers have them by the balls. I don't know what the monthly rate can go up to before people start moving elsewhere. There has to be some more room to go up because its still really cheap.

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    2. I agree with pretty much all of that, but add in the fact how much their own original content which I suspect is a HUGE reason people subscribe now.

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    3. I agree it has added a lot of subs but I think its a sticky service and people will keep paying for it. Plus, the cost is so low. I know a guy that owns a gym in Boston and I remember he told me one time that something like 90% of his paying members, who pay $75/month, never use the gym.

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    4. "I don't know what the monthly rate can go up to before people start moving elsewhere."

      Skate to where the puck will be.

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  40. HLF- I'm guessing the presentation is over?

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  41. "We use Amazon Prime to watch movies (if we ever get a chance to watch movies) but the experience just isn't the same as the DVDs from OUTR with the big screen TV. "

    I'm not understanding that, I can easily connect the computer to the television then use that for a monitor and that's only by pure coincidence, never intended on building an entertainment center that way b/c MSFTy's operating system is a notorious pile of crap. I'm sure there are better ways though, for connecting the big TV to the streaming internet, internet streaming is built into them now?

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    1. I'm sure there are easier ways but the DVD to the Big Screen is perfectly acceptable and quite easy, requiring no new devices, no downloading, etc.

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  42. CW - I think this company is a powerhouse of technology, not sure why someone like GE didn't swoop them up when they were cheap.

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  43. NM and SBLK appear to have held in the best relative to the 200 dma. The whole group is turning up though.

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  44. BOIL - Another 3% drop on the boiler maker.

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  45. NFLX/AMZN- CP, I think that comment is referring tp picture quality. I have a pretty high end set up and the picture/sound quality is much, much better with an HD, DVD...not to mention Bluray.

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    1. OUTR is begging to be purchased at a 7 or 8 p/e.

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    2. Well that makes sense I guess. Are you guys still watching 1020p or is it even higher than that now? I think my eyes aren't good enuff to appreciate much more than 720, really.

      What bugs me more than anything is the excruciating amount of time it takes for INTC's HDMI handshake to accomplish, but once does it seems stable so don't have to go through the hassle often.

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    3. 1080p is the highest resolution....BUT, it can look crappy if the source sucks. That's steaming's issue. It's compressed so much you have high resolution of crap. Bluray DVD is by far the best choice if quality matters at all.

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    4. well..there's 4K now but there is no content for it. I've seen 4K with the correct content, a thumb drive file from the manufacturer, and it looks better but not a ton.

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    5. Okay, then it's not actually 1080p if it's chopped to fit bandwidth limitations. Bluray is a Sony technology if I recall, or it might be Samsung, don't remember.

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    1. @HerbalifeTRUTH: Well, that was fun. Who's ready for a shake?

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  47. MLER - Coming out of a steep slump?

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    1. What's really weird is Freedom motor's website is down, wonder if there's a big deal going down?

      This is the crowd that bought OMC's outboard rotary engine design, OMC was very successful with the development but quit pursuing this b/c they didn't want the EPA to outright ban the existing 2-stroke product line. Well, that happened anyway, but much later.

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  48. (a) RSX off @ 25.15 pre-market for a +2% gain. Currently 25.12, and never traded above 25.21.
    (b) DB currently 35.87. Giving this one more room.
    (c) GDXJ off early this morning @ 43.95-> reopened @ 43.3x-> off again @ 43.6x.
    (d) Not seeing the kind of strength I need to see in miners. GDX opened strong, sold off immediately, and now treading water. Highly likely I will close RYPMX end of day.

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  49. Within the past ten minutes, DB sold off hard-> now down -2.5%. My guess is their testimony at a Senate tax avoidance meeting isn't going well. Here's the thing- I don't know what's going on, so I'm out at 35 for a minor loss (opened yesterday @ 35.68).

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  50. Fuelcell bonanza, GE announces fuel cell plans.

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    1. FCEL - Such a coincidence, this chart looked ready for a big day. What's up with these coincidences?

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  51. I fat fingered a AAPL trade. I put an order in for $92.75 (missed by $0.05) so I decided to raise it and missed it again, so I tried to leg into a trade with 200 shares at a time and accidentally entered 2,000 shares. So now I have a larger position than I wanted for a day trade with a cost of $94.3 and am looking to get out with a small loss. The old fat finger trade is a real thing!

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    1. I did that once, now double check with a magnifier lens.

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    2. I think the cup of coffee I had over lunch forced me to hit the zero button one too many times.

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    3. Keybounce, I had an entire pot of coffee and only bounced a couple times.

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    4. Wow impressive. An entire pot!

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  52. GEVO - New 52wk low, you'd think maybe this guy could get ahold of a van load of corn and distill it.

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  53. MEOH - This puppy seems to be benefiting from natty price declines.

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  54. Sold the AAPL at $94.18. Not looking to hold a bigger position than I wanted overnight. I think the trading is bullish though, because earnings weren't spectacular yet after a big move up it's holding ground.

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  55. The markets are full of mixed signals (both in terms of technicals and in terms of sentiment) right now, and I don't have a take on short-term direction. I do have a take on the intermediate term (the next several weeks), which is decidedly bearish.

    For a few brief moments this morning, my account balances were at all-time highs. Had I been able to close RYPMX at that point, I would have locked it in. It's difficult to overstate the disadvantage individual investors face when trading mutual funds. The trading restrictions exist ostensibly to 'protect' investors, but that's a load of buffalo chips. Maybe someday they'll even the playing field, and we'll find out whether Wall Street traders are worth their inflated salaries.

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  56. Ackman looked like a bozo in that suit, IMO.

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    1. I'd cry too if I was short $1B and paid $60M to research a position and see it rally 25% after my big presentation.

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    2. I'd betcha he was covering yesterday as he was promising nothing. Man, that guy is a dumbass.

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  57. Came across this on the Reminiscences blog:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-10/whitebox-shorting-never-never-stocks-in-graham-reversal.html

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    1. Makes sense.
      The Whitebox Never Never Index:

      Advisory Board Co.
      Athenahealth Inc.
      Infoblox Inc.
      Concur Technologies Inc.
      Cepheid Inc.
      Salesforce.com Inc.
      Equinix Inc.
      Facebook Inc.
      Kate Spade & Co.
      LinkedIn Corp.
      Marketo Inc.
      NetSuite Inc.
      OpenTable Inc.
      OPKO Health Inc.
      Palo Alto Networks Inc.
      Shutterfly Inc.
      Under Armour Inc.
      Workday Inc.

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    2. Some of those companies will turn into dividend payors. People said the same about MSFT and the other old-tech companies, but when growth stopped, they became dividend companies. Not saying there not overvalued, but his premise that they'll never return cash is wrong, in my opinion.

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  58. UNG/TBT - How much lower can these move, realistically?

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  59. DF - Can this one retest $15? Cereal producers are looking to recover market share from the likes of MCD, so how does this shake out, do they go into fast food morning menu or start drilling for natty?

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  60. TOF - Take a look at BOBE, does this one make any sense here?

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    1. What's the catalyst?

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    2. Should be priced higher, worth more than current value.

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  61. AAPL - Moonshot, WTF was flat to weak looking last night.

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    1. I think it was really bullish that it was holding the recent gains. Seemed that way to me.

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  62. GEVO - Oops, not doing well at all. Never, Never stock?

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    1. Good thing you kept us away!

      Wish I understood the industry dynamics better as it seems like some of them are ready to buy, but since I don't, either I'll miss them or they'll get so cheap and beat down that I'll just buy one anyhow.

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    2. Some of them have had good moves like NBR, ESV and DO, but RIG is still down.

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    3. "Wish I understood the industry dynamics better as it seems like some of them are ready to buy, but since I don't, either I'll miss them or they'll get so cheap and beat down that I'll just buy one anyhow."

      That kept me out of Gold / Silver miners during the entire bust phase. Stick to what you know best...

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  64. LEJU run may have finally started...

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    1. U still holding CYTX? I still have a small position. They had some more good news yesterday. I bet this cranks higher out of the blue.

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  65. RES - Must've been decent, like HAL

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  66. OUTR has traded sideways for 4 years while EPS is up 4 fold. Trailing FCF is $226 Million vs $1.14 Billion mkt cap. I get the fact that streaming is the future, but let's say it doesn't get adopted by middle america for another hmmm 10 years? The company will generate enough FCF to buy itself out in 5 years.

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    1. Isn't like 40% of NFLX rev. from DVD's still?

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    2. Is it really? I'd imagine 100% of its profits too. I don't know why they don't just buy out OUTR. Do a small equity raise and get it over with.

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    3. You never know how low these things can go. Remember GCI? Newspaper business was going away and people drove it down to like 1X EPS and 0.5X FCF at the bottom in 2009. Obviously the whole world was going to go bankrupt and the odds of that happening to a company like OUTR are slim to none. But it shows that things can get really irrational to the downside. They do have a solid coin change business as well.

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    4. "I don't know why they don't just buy out OUTR."

      Good point, perhaps this explains the motive behind this bearish campaign?

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    5. Last time it got beaten down like this some activist investor stepped in and then it popped hard and they exited. Could indeed be part of a coordinated attack.

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  67. CP - re: BOBE:
    Need something other than valuation, probably. SNE is a case where its just so ridiculously cheap that it is worth waiting for valuation (or a catalyst) to come through. NOK was that way too. Both had no identifiable catalysts. If I look at BOBE, where's the value? It trades at like 35 P/E, it has negative FCF, and it has had declining revenues for every year since 2009.

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    1. Well put, Cramer was pumping it not long ago before this last dive so I figured maybe he knew more than me.

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  68. GME - I owned this one back when the model was dead was going bankrupt trading @ $22~$25

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  69. Jeff Saut's comments this week:
    http://www.raymondjames.com/inv_strat.htm

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    1. "Reinforcing my recent “pullback call” has been the weakness in the Russell 2000 (RUT/1151.61) that looks conspicuously like it has put in a double-top and broken below its 50-day moving average (DMA) at 1152.82, as well as its 200-DMA (@1140.83) on an intraday basis (see chart on next page). However, despite the media's trumpeting of those events, the history of such occurrences is pretty spotty. Year-to-date the S&P 500 (SPX/1978.22) is better by about 7%, but the Russell 2000 is down 0.72%. Such underperformance has caused some pundits to question the health of the overall stock market. However, looking at the history of when the RUT underperforms the SPX shows that more often than not following such a period of underperformance has found the SPX going higher. To be certain, the RUT is trading at about 26x its next 12 months' earnings estimates, while the SPX is trading at 16.6x, so I think all that is happening is a valuation correction in the RUT. In fact, if one looks at all the indices except the large cap ones, it shows that we have indeed fallen into a correction over the past few weeks. Of course that “foots” with the historical trends in that we are now into the 64/65 month timing points since the March 2009 low, which historically has proven to be a trouble spot to the various stock market indices.

      Also counseling for near-term caution are the negative breadth divergences that have occurred this month. The first was in early July and the second happened last week. When the D-J Industrial (INDU/17100.18) makes a new high and the NYSE Advance/Decline Line doesn’t, that's a negative breadth divergence (see chart on page 3). If such a condition is corrected quickly, then the all-clear is signaled. If not, it is a red flag. It has been roughly three weeks since the first divergence and now we have experienced a second divergence. We also have a negative price divergence with the large capitalization indexes acting perky while the small capitalization indices aren’t. When taken in concert with the other warning cracks, I continue to think if I am going to err here, I am going to err on the side of caution.

      The call for this week: I have long maintained that the initial support level for the SPX resides between 1940 and 1950. On July 10, 2014 the SPX's intraday low was 1952.86. Last week's intraday low was 1955.59. Accordingly, if those lows are violated, concurrent with a break below the 1940 - 1950 zone, the odds increase for a pullback greater than the mere 6% “hiccups”we have seen since November 2012. Meanwhile, despite all of the negative nabobs of the past few years telling us earnings were NOT going to be up to expectations, last week’s kick-off of earnings season shows 64.2% of earnings reports, and 57.0% of revenue reports, have beaten expectations!"

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    2. Hard to know with any certainty.

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    3. There's never certainty in investing. It's all just about playing the odds.

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    4. Then would TWM be the way to go, or is there a better choice?

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  70. Came across this - http://www.marinemoney.com/sites/all/themes/marinemoney/publications/marinemoneymag/2012/CurrentMMmag.pdf

    It's a couple years old, but good backgrounder on the shipping industry and all of the public companies in it. To get the current one, you need a $1,800 subscription.

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  71. Sne looking good

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  72. Wife went long PLUG yesterday around 5.5x.

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  73. I went long WFM @ 36.70 a couple of days ago, may have forgotten to post.

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  74. ANGI- This can't surprise anyone.

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  75. Time for some TWM, or is there another index that compels? (Am I looking at shorting the wrong index?)

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  76. NWLI - Wondering how impressive 8/7 earnings might be, considering rates have been so low.

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    1. They should be fine. They've managed low rates successfully the last several years.

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    1. Two more allotments off @ 15.05 and 14.43. Ha! Take that, GAZ-U.

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  78. BXE - Looks like the nonsense may have receded.

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  79. BOIL - Did you see the ongoing eruption?

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  80. AGCO - With low corn prices, US farmers can/will park their tractors. No idea concerning Indian government policy on farm subsidies, or AGCO's Ukranian sales. FIATY makes a great tractor too.

    How long do corn and natty continue in the same direction?

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    1. They split the company a couple years ago. CNHI is the farm division.

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    2. Ah yes, I keep forgetting this.

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  81. AAII survey actually has more bears than bulls:

    http://www.bespokeinvest.com/thinkbig/2014/7/24/bulls-an-endangered-species.html

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    1. That's remarkable huh? I really think everyone is expecting a 10% correction because we haven't had one in 2 years. However, when was the last time we had 18 to 50% corrections four years in a row like we did from 2008 to 2011? You know how the market works: after periods of sideways moves for a long time when something bolts out of the sideways range it never allows for easy entries. AA is a perfect example.

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    2. Yeah, my bad investor gold bug friend told me a couple of years ago, "you have to buy gold, it's gone up for 10 years straight".

      Still seems we are in the sweet spot, with reasonable valuations, improving job market, low rates, etc. Plus, very importantly, the housing market is still building at recession levels. Once that starts to go, that is a big incremental driver in the economy and likely the market. Probably then, people will feel better about things and then start buying stocks, but we'll be 3/4's of the way through the cycle by then.

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  82. Starting to consider GM. If I had to guess I'd say we still have a chance down around $34.

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  83. Look at the chart even of DRYS which I consider to be one of the weaker ones. Still holding higher lows. These shipping charts remind me a lot of charts like KKD as it was going through its new bull market. After big initial rallies there are usually nasty pullbacks that last for a decent amount of time, shaking most of the holders out. Yet they tend to just barely hold support (i.e., marginally higher lows).

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    1. If you google "barrons Four Top Picks in Dry Bulk Shipping" to get past the paywall, they have positive article on both BALT and NM. Think it is just by an investor, but Barron's press is always good.

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  84. I don't think I posted this yesterday but I switched out of SPWR and into FSLR yesterday after looking at valuation and setups closer. I want exposure to solar in some way and will probably switch back and forth based on both.

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  85. You guys see this on CYTX?
    http://www.smarteranalyst.com/2014/07/23/cctrns-trial-choice-validates-cytori-as-top-stem-cell-player-says-roth-capital/

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    1. No, thanks for pointing it out. Noticed this too:

      "According to TipRanks.com, which measures analysts and bloggers success rate based on how their calls perform, analyst Joseph Pantginis has a -10.9% average return and a 29% success rate. Pantginis has a -21.5% average return when recommending CYTX, and is ranked #3189 out of 3213 analysts."

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    2. Here's to the 29%!

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  86. OUTR - Seems to have good support in this area and unlikely to retest previous or lower lows but consider me in if it does.

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  87. GM - $35.80 held, I doubt bears can hold it down much longer.

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    1. Talk is earnings should be over $5.00 next year once the recall is behind them, so at $35, fwd p/e is less than 7 and with the oldest average car age on the road and supposedly good new products coming out, it should be able to move up easily.

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    2. I agree with BB; however, I still think it goes lower first.

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    3. Could well be right. We may get some estimate lowers over the next few days based on the lower than expected earnings.

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  88. PLUG - I think these guys are burning natural gas in these cells but I'm not sure how they handle the carbon to keep it from clogging up the works.

    Another technology I don't comprehend is motor oil being made by using natty for a feed stock, seems like it would require huge volumes to accomplish.

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  89. OUTR - Another one coming to me, THINK FAST!

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  90. HXL - Oh baby, just noticed this one.

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    1. HXL - BACML - "Hexcel Corporation: Leaving PO of $53 unchanged
      July 23, 2014"

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  91. Just happened across the top selling books list on Amazon and, good news, not 1 investing book in the top 100. A few business books and stories about Wall Street, but as far actual investment goes not one. Even when I select the "business and investing category", the first one on investing is #26, a book on quant investing for individuals.

    Just another sign people are not interested in the market.

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    1. Everyone I know doesn't have any interest, the only interest is in PM's or being out/short with low rates as far as the eye can see.

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    2. I still think the tv on flights indicator is a really good one. Even if we get a 10 or 20% correction i see no reason why we won't continue higher on back of apathy / negative sentiment

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    3. That's a dual indicator, the second of which could spell prostrate trouble.

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  92. AMZN - Are the fully automated warehouses kicking in the profitability yet? I guess that move must've cost a pretty penny when it comes to capital expenditure.

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  93. SRS didn't move much in response to the new housing sales report and the hub-bub surrounding the subject.

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  94. Looks like the move in sne may be for real:
    http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/6758

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  95. It would be fun to make some money shorting AMZN.

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    1. I really think that there is a lot to be made there as the valuation of the stock makes now sense. The hard part is getting the timing right.

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  96. I had that view for 35 years in Hawaii and sold it. I had one person who told me I was crazy, maybe they are right.

    The problem was that it was a high rise condo and you have no control over maintenance fees which are like an adjustable rate mortgage that only adjusts up over time. In the next ten years it was forecast to go from 1050/mo to 1750/mo.

    I suppose the moral of the story is if your young have a strong preference for a single family home over a high rise condo where you are in control of your expenses and not some board of directors. Prudent leveraged real estate is a good thing.

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  97. Same thing is happening here with the Z charts/prices. Mine has 'gone up' 200K in the last 6 months. Says it's worth 1.2M. I'm guessing 850-900kish.

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  98. Sell-side weighs in on GM:

    Downgrading to Outperform from Buy, CLSA says GM's pricing is unpredictable and questions whether the automaker can push new through new truck price gains.Also downgrading is Deutsche, which cuts to Hold from Buy.Buy the dip, says UBS, calling yesterday's 4.5% decline an overreaction, noting better-than-forecast results in South America and Asia. The team also notes management's confidence for better North American pricing ahead in H2.Goldman maintains GM as a Conviction Buy.Shares -0.75% premarket

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  99. We’ve come
    across a number of blogs recently
    arguing that the weakness in the
    Baltic Freight Index may be an
    indicator of impending weak
    economic news, and in the past we
    might well have joined that
    argument for we were amongst the
    first on Wall Street twenty years ago or more to pay heed
    to the BDI when others did not. However, now we are
    here to suggest that the BDI might not be quite as good
    an indicator of economic weakness or strength as it might
    have been in the past simply because the size of the
    ships involved have changed so dramatically. Twenty
    years ago, a ship that was
    capable of carrying 3-5
    thousand TEUs was a big
    ship plying the oceans; now
    ships of that size are quite
    nearly toys and certainly they
    are swiftly becoming obsolete
    as ships capable of carrying
    18-20 thousand TEU’s are on
    the water and more are
    coming out of production.
    Note the then chart of the
    Baltic Dry Index this page,
    and now that it has indeed

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    1. continued, per gartman letter

      fallen to the lows last seen in the depths of the great
      recession in the spring of ’09. As Martin Dixon, the
      Director and Head of Research for Drewry, the always
      influential research and consulting firm in the shipping
      business, said regarding the unit cost advantage these
      enormous new ships have is such that shipping rates are
      being driven downward by their influence alone. He said,
      The big carriers have realized that they can
      still remain profitable despite low freight rates
      due to their unit cost advantage. For carriers
      this means that future profitability and… for
      some future survival… will depend on cost
      leadership.
      Interestingly, there seems to be no urgency on the part of
      the owners of these monstrous ships to try to even push
      freight rates marginally higher, for it is now rather clear
      that every container carried on a ship with less than 10
      thousand TEUs as capacity is being carried at a loss.
      The largest shippers are therefore content, it seems, to
      continually squeeze the
      smaller ship owners who have
      the smallest ships on the
      seas. This may continue a
      while longer therefore, and the
      BDI, as an indicator of global
      economic activity may
      continue to be less than
      helpful.


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    2. http://www.cargonewsasia.com/secured/article.aspx?id=3&article=33841

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    3. I think BALT has mentioned BDI of 1300 is breakeven?

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  100. MITK- It might be interesting to watch the bid/ask at the open. -.05 EPS yesterday AH.

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  101. BAS - Apparently fully priced. I guess oil stocks run is ready for a breather.

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  102. TWM - Nice pop.
    GM - Okay, where do we jump in?

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